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Generative AI Is driving remarkable trends
The Pioneer ^ | Thursday, December 14, 2023 | Krishna Kumar

Posted on 12/14/2023 5:06:00 AM PST by Jyotishi

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41 posted on 12/14/2023 9:41:01 AM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: grey_whiskers
AI is large scale plagiarism by looking in the rearview mirror.

Any groundbreaking scientist or creative person, if they're honest, will tell you that they have succeeded only because they stand on the shoulders of giants.

42 posted on 12/14/2023 9:48:18 AM PST by Sirius Lee (I am going to keep SPAMming the meme "I see Freepers bickering..." where applicable)
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To: RoosterRedux
"You need to actually work with AGI a little instead of just commenting from no experience."

Ah, the 'Appeal to Authority' fallacy. The assumption I have no experience with these pattern recognition tools, because of my personal assessment of their actual nature, is wrong. Even if I had none should that matter? One doesn't need to be an expert in something to have an informed opinion regarding it. Is it your opinion if someone opposes this brave new world, they're clearly an ignorant Luddite? I'll remind that, 'All change is not growth as all movement is not forward.'

The "AI drawn" cartoon you use as an example demonstrates the pattern recognition point of my comment. It found the pieces and parts that best matched your prompt, whatever that was. As one inspects the result you can see the patchwork nature of the collage, or photobashing, as it is sometimes called.

This is simply photobashing on a much finer pixel by pixel basis. It's why the fingers, eyes, shadows, whole cats, are never quite right. It's programmed to arrange the patterns as closely as it can to match what the prompter requested. It didn't draw or write anything. Will it improve? Of course. They're working feverishly to perfect their plagiarism machine, and I'm sure they will. It's a race against the copyright violation lawsuits piling up.

These things are simply new tools. Developed and used conscientiously they will be a great force multiplier for smaller, independent businesses. However, they have a tremendous number of issues yet to be ironed out.

43 posted on 12/14/2023 11:16:13 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: yesthatjallen
"But it can do a great deal of damage depending on who is using it and for what. Dismiss it at your own peril."

I'm going to change the focus of your reply slightly and say, "...it can do a great deal of damage depending on who programmed it and for what."

I am not dismissive of these tools at all, and I agree, they are already very dangerous. We had all better become acutely aware of how they function, how they are being developed, and by whom.

44 posted on 12/14/2023 11:21:34 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: Frank Drebin
Ah, the 'Appeal to Authority' fallacy

Er, no. That's not an appeal to authority. That's saying that you need to learn about AI before acting like an expert. And sticking your head in the sand isn't the way to do it.

Just because you are a Luddite, doesn't mean that people who aren't Luddites are proponents of AI. Frankly, I think AI is going to become a serious problem for humanity. SOON.

But the point is, AI is not just clever coding on the part of humans. As many people in that industry are saying, the problem with AI began when a few of the more advanced large language models started programming themselves.

Bottom line as far as I can tell: This will not end well for humans. BUT, there is no stopping technological development because if the U.S. stops, we can rest assured our enemies will not.

As an investor in the AI industry, I watch a lot of podcasts (I'm good at separating the wheat from the chaff BTW). Everyone (CEOs of AI companies, scientists who design AI, and physicists, etc. watching from the outside) is talking about what is going on in the AI labs, not what is available to the public. Though some good may come from AI, most people who are close to the labs are frankly scared of the potential for AI.

If you think AI is just some simple tool, you haven't been paying attention.

45 posted on 12/14/2023 2:19:52 PM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: grey_whiskers
AI is large scale plagiarism by looking in the rearview mirror.

That's what ALL technological and scientific development is...and has always been.

46 posted on 12/14/2023 2:34:17 PM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: yesthatjallen; Frank Drebin
"It. Can't. Think."

This can be said about human data aggregators as well.

47 posted on 12/14/2023 6:25:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RoosterRedux

NO, you don’t understand.

That wasn’t rhetoric, but an actual description.

People can invent and innovate. AI cannot.

AI is best for music and arts, because the human mind, interpreting the finished product, can intuit or make associations which gloss over defects.


48 posted on 12/14/2023 10:25:40 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
AI is best for music and arts

Huh?

That explains why the U.S. blocked the sale of approx. $5 billion of Nvidia's advanced AI chips to China the other day. We are afraid China might take over the "music and entertainment" industry.

We would be doomed if China created its own Taylor Swift robot.;-)

The biggest uses of AI so far are (not in any particular order): business/industry, engineering, science, computer science, law, medicine, military.

I think it's AI's military potential that has the U.S. most worried when it comes to advanced chip sales to China.

49 posted on 12/15/2023 1:34:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Disagree. Generative AI is a parlor trick, at best. Invest at your own peril.


50 posted on 12/17/2023 4:22:22 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: dinodino

That’s not true, but thanks for your opinion.


51 posted on 12/17/2023 4:39:58 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ve been a software developer since 1979, with an interest in machine learning. Generative AI is not intelligent—prove me wrong.


52 posted on 12/17/2023 4:46:57 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: dinodino
As an aside, I started accumulating Nvidia back in 2018, when it was selling around $35. Check its current price (symbol-NVDA).

It's now a trillion dollar company (market cap). It's not a parlor trick.

53 posted on 12/17/2023 4:52:23 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: dinodino
Generative AI is not intelligent.

Define intelligent.

BTW, AI is going to replace you if you aren't already retired.

54 posted on 12/17/2023 4:54:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Not retired, my businesses are booming. As for intelligence, try asking ChatGPT to tell you anything forward-looking or to write complex code. Good luck—you’ll need it.


55 posted on 12/17/2023 5:01:26 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: dinodino
prove me wrong.

In all due respect, don't you think you need to do your own research.

Scientists are sufficiently afraid of AI that they are trying to slow down its development. And our esteemed government is banning the sale of advanced AI chips to China. In your profession, many software developers are finding themselves out of work because of AI.

And you want little old me to prove you wrong?

56 posted on 12/17/2023 5:04:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

No developers in my sphere have been replaced by AI, nor are they likely to be. High-performance embedded SW development is simply outside the ken, if I may use the term, of any generative AI.


57 posted on 12/17/2023 5:07:18 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: dinodino
Good Lord, man. ChatGPT isn't a code assistant. ChatGPT is just a simple conservational bot for the public to familiarize itself with GPT 3.5.
58 posted on 12/17/2023 5:13:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m just using the vulgate when referring to generative AI as a whole. It is not intelligent, period. There is nothing you can say that will convince me that the current generative AI models evince actual intelligence and self-awareness.


59 posted on 12/17/2023 5:15:54 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: dinodino
There are software developers here on FR that have spoken about how heavily they now rely on AI for their coding work (do your own research to find them or post a vanity). They say their productivity has jumped significantly...and that means that Luddites are going to be replaced.

I use AI in writing investment analysis algorithms (merely using VBA on Excel) and it has reduced time spent on some projects by roughly 75%.

Frankly, I'm a little shocked that you aren't aware of this change.

60 posted on 12/17/2023 5:21:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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