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The Biden administration unveiled its hydrogen tax credit proposal, estimated to deliver $140 billion in revenue and 700,000 jobs by 2030
dnyuz.com ^ | December 22, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 12/22/2023 9:27:53 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 12/22/2023 9:27:53 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Meet the new scam, same as the old scam.


2 posted on 12/22/2023 9:28:31 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Sounds like somebody is leaving their drugs laying around in the White House again.


3 posted on 12/22/2023 9:29:04 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The American Taxpayers don't owe anybody an instant "I want it now" version of the American dream.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Except since Methane is mostly hydrogen, a case can be made for gas producers to get in on the ‘gig’.


4 posted on 12/22/2023 9:29:32 AM PST by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Red Badger

Does ANYBODY ever go back to check these prognostications?

“700,000 jobs by 2030” — I’d wager you will get 700 jobs by 2030 and they will all be in demolition of failed projects.


5 posted on 12/22/2023 9:30:26 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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That is a lot of ‘walkin’ around money’ for the reptiles the torture us with our own tax dollars.


6 posted on 12/22/2023 9:35:07 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Red Badger
Everything is taxed, except the air that we breathe.

Now, politicians have figured out how to tax that.

7 posted on 12/22/2023 9:37:52 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: silent majority rising

And water does have some percentage of hydrogen.

So I get credit for collecting rainwater?


8 posted on 12/22/2023 9:39:49 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: Red Badger

We’re saved...Now...where are all those hydrogen stations and how will the hydrogen get there...and will my car catch on fire in the garage??


9 posted on 12/22/2023 9:41:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Red Badger
The Biden administration released its highly anticipated proposal for doling out billions of dollars in tax credits

Where in the Constitution does it give the Executive branch power/authority to give tax credits?

10 posted on 12/22/2023 9:42:22 AM PST by JesusIsLord ( )
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To: Red Badger
Biden’s hydrogen plan has the code name “The Hindenburg Project”


11 posted on 12/22/2023 9:55:35 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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The byproduct of Reneformer H2 production from NatGas is CO2.
Run it thru a PSA unit and its cheap, but I don’t want it sitting in my garage.


12 posted on 12/22/2023 9:55:58 AM PST by txroadhawg ("To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors." Ronald Reagan)
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That’s a euphemism for wasting energy.


13 posted on 12/22/2023 9:57:50 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger
Hydrogen and lithium batteries are stores of energy. Some prior form of energy must be present to produce the hydrogen or charge the battery. The "pollution" occurs at the site of transformation. EV and hydrogen vehicles are only "cleaner" at the site of use. Another scam and boondoggle to funnel taxpayer money to Democrat voters (prevailing wage is your clue).
14 posted on 12/22/2023 10:16:41 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

What we want is cheap, plentiful, reliable, safe energy. We should not be looking to subsidize something that needs to be at least competitive with existing energy sources. And boasting about the number of jobs created is really telling us that it will have high labor costs.


15 posted on 12/22/2023 10:22:51 AM PST by csn vinnie
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Correct in a round about way. Hydrogen is a clean fuel period. Where we run into a problem is it is created out of water. Hydrogen is cheap to produce and generators are relatively simple to build. There a multitude of problems with this scenario. No profit to be made unless there is handouts. Hydrogen is highly volatile and people are stupid, enough said. Now how to meter it for combustion is the challenge that has never really been harnessed. It has been successfully done on a limited basis for fixed speed engines but not for a range like automotive application where you have stop and go traffic. For these reasons it is the next great Rona scam to make the rich richer and the people poorer.


16 posted on 12/22/2023 10:35:11 AM PST by Slingwing
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17 posted on 12/22/2023 10:45:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

BETCHA BIDEN IS NOT ALIVE BY 2030.


18 posted on 12/22/2023 11:10:32 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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“ Where we run into a problem is it is created out of water.”
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And when it is combusted to produce power for a car the “waste product” is water. Having grown up mostly in very cold climates I have to wonder whether much of that waste water will end up as very thin but very slippery black ice on the roads travelled in cold climates.

It could well be the GOOD OLD CURSE of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.


19 posted on 12/22/2023 11:22:14 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Red Badger

The sum of dollars is too large, the mission of the dollars is too large, the timeline is unrealistic and the whole thing will generate too much corruption and too many failures. But Biden et el don’t care because it will generate millions in campaign donations back to the Dims from the crony capitalist ventures involved.

As for the federal government and hydrogen as fuel, there is room for very basic research to try to prove out various routes to that end. We have federal research enttities that can do that for many, many, many times less than $140 billion.

After than no special tax deductions will be needed for smart venture capitalists to start companies that what to get into the hydogen-as-fuel marketplace.


20 posted on 12/22/2023 1:33:52 PM PST by Wuli
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