Posted on 12/26/2023 5:52:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Neither is that twit Harris....
Our candy ass GOP is afraid to raise the issue. Failing to do so with both obama and harris has led us here..to the systematic destruction of our country. The GOP is responsible for this, all of it...spit.
The key question would be whether or not Haley’s parents were in the country legally when she was born. If they were and were not diplomats, they were “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. It can be reasonably argued that those who enter the US illegally are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US and while their children might be able to become citizens, they would not be natural born citizens.
I will be very reluctant to cast a vote for Nikki Haley, even if Trump ends up choosing her as his VP running mate. That said, the “natural born citizen” issue is settled. It’s over. And Laura Loomer, by all accounts, is a nut - Trump’s cause is not well-served by people like her.
This is awesome!
There are two possibilities. Haley's parents either were naturalized citizens when she was born, or were in the process of becoming US citizens when she was born. In the first case, the children born of legally naturalized parents are NBC like all other second generation children of legal immigrants. In that case, legal filings claiming she is not a NBC are falsehoods that will get thrown out of court until the courts are tired of a lawyer making a fool of himself.
If her parents were in process of becoming citizens when she was born, US law and court practice treat children born of naturalizing but not yet naturalized citizens as NBCs. They are not citizens of their parent's home countries, they were born on US soil, and US citizenship is governed solely by US law, foreign citizenship law has no bearing on US citizenship law. There are only two types of legal citizens, NBC and naturalized. There is no other citizenship categories. Period. Full stop on no other citizenship types.
Short version, as I understand it, allowing the children born of naturalizing citizens who become naturalized citizens, while they are becoming naturalized citizens to be NBC, keeps the law and legal process simpler and usable. It also prevent creating a third type of citizenship which does not exist under US law or have any precedent in the courts.
I hope this makes some if not complete sense. Immigration and citizenship ship law is has a particularly messy history.
RE: The key question would be whether or not Haley’s parents were in the country legally when she was born.
By all indications, THEY WERE HERE LEGALLY.
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley
Haley was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa at Bamberg County Hospital in Bamberg, South Carolina,[1][2][9] to immigrant Sikh parents from Amritsar, Punjab, India.[10][11]
Her father, Ajit Singh Randhawa, had worked as a professor at Punjab Agricultural University in the 1950s, and her mother, Raj Kaur Randhawa, received her law degree from the University of Delhi.[12][13]
Both of her parents immigrated from India to Canada in 1964 after Ajit received a scholarship offer from the University of British Columbia.[14] After he received his PhD in 1969, he moved his family to South Carolina to be a professor of biology at Voorhees College, a historically black institution in Denmark, South Carolina.
He retired from teaching in 1998.[15] Raj earned her master’s degree in education and taught for seven years in Bamberg public schools. In May 1976, she started a popular women’s clothing boutique, Exotica International, in West Columbia.
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There is zero chance that this will be a factor in this or any future Presidential election.
What’s the over/under on people who are going to repeat old, tired claims about what it means to be a “natural born citizen”?
10? 15?
Even worse, Matt Margolis takes the opinion offered up by Cornell University. Logical thinking skills are also dead.
The question centers around the meaning of the term “natural born citizen”. A compelling argument can be made, based on writings at the time of the Constitution’s framing, that the status of being a natural born citizen was not something that could be conveyed by statute and whose meaning was clear out the Constitution’s outset.
Being that birthright citizenship (i.e. automatically granting citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil, regardless of their parent’s status) is a novel concept that wasn’t accepted by the framers, it’s likely that their meaning of the term didn’t include anchor babies or children born on U.S. soil to non-citizen parents.
We don’t grant citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents are ambassador’s from other countries. The idea of granting natural born citizen status to the offspring of a UN ambassador from Pakistan’s wife, because he or she was born in New York is patently absurd. How different is it to have been born in this country from non-citizen parents who were not ambassadors? Not very, IMO.
Some believe citizenship comes from the child’s parents and the child inherits citizenship from father and from mother.
On the other hand, some believe that citizenship comes from the soil, from the country where the child is born.
The only case where all would agree the child is a citizen, A “Natural Born Citizen”, is when the child is born in country to citizen parents.
That’s the only time when the citizenship inherited from father, mother and country is the same for each one.
If the President is going to be the Commander in Chief of all of us, then all of us need to agree that he or she is a citizen of us and has a natural born allegiance to us and to no one else.
Thus, Natural Born Citizenship defined as born in country to citizen parents has to be a requirement to be President.
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This means there is an actual reference to "guarding against... a creature... raised... by foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils" in the Federalist Papers itself.
Hamilton called this "chief" amongst the "most deadly adversaries of republican government..."
-PJ
The racist./s
We have had several people who are suspect and who work for the WEF or communists. We are a nation of over 330 million and the odds show this is planned. The socialist/communists want to destroy the USA.
THANK YOU, LAURA.
I HAVE POSTED AT LEAST 40 different comments on this topic.
HALEY is a FRAUD, IMO. SHE IS TAKING MONEY TO RUN A CAMPAIGN FOR A JOB SHE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR.
BE A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”
CLEAR AS CAN BE.
NOT A ‘NATURALIZED CITIZEN”.
SHE IS AN ANCHOR BABY
EVERY ONE OF US SHOULD HAVE STANDING
IT is similar to being a dog & being a dog that can be registered with the AKC.
SORRY—YOU ARE WRONG
SHE IS A CITIZEN
SHE IS NOT-—repeat-—NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
You can have a dog-—that is a dog-—but it might NOT be a dog that can be registered with the AKC.
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