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Ukraine Propaganda
Armstrong Economics ^ | 1 Jan 24 | Martin Armstr

Posted on 01/01/2024 12:36:28 PM PST by delta7

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To: delta7

Just dipping into this article is a bath of horse$hit.

Rome didn’t have wars when it had free trade??

Anyone who reads over the 1200 year history of the Roman Empire (East and West) and their in the Republic before that, and you will be very hard pressed to identify time periods of peace. And Free Trade the reason for peaceful periods? Nonsense.

And a computer is telling us what will happen with Ukraine? Ok.

And building up Ukraine’s military was a big trick - as we know they had no need thereafter, I mean it’s not like Russia invaded or anything.

Should I add up all the times they say the evil neocons started the war, but they missed Putin attacking.


21 posted on 01/01/2024 2:19:31 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

Another lie-ridden blog post written by a convicted fraudster.


22 posted on 01/01/2024 2:19:53 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: jimwatx

Yeah Putin sure has demonstrated his interest in saving lives.... Are you high?


23 posted on 01/01/2024 2:20:27 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Nope I quit smoking weed a week ago and am as sober as can be. I think it’s you Ukie supporting neocons who should be tested for drugs.


24 posted on 01/01/2024 2:26:41 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

I only save your kooky predictions, to throw back at you

(see new tagline)


25 posted on 01/01/2024 2:48:47 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian vermin out!!)
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To: delta7
So, more Russian propaganda from Martin Armstrong. Let's break it open: The West negotiated in bad faith with the Minsk Agreement to buy time for Ukraine to build an army trained, BTW, by NATO.

It is Russia that has had no intention to honor Minsk. By that agreement they were suppose to withdraw their forces from Donbas and hand over the border to Ukrainian control. Something that they never did. Additionally, it was Russia who prevented the referendum that Ukraine had organized in accord with the Minsk Agreement.

The Belgrade Agreement was that Ukraine, the 3rd largest nuclear power in the world in 1991, surrendered its nukes, promising that it would remain neutral and neither NATO would advance nor Russia would invade. Zelensky broke both agreements on the order of the Neocons.

Ukraine has not joined nor been accepted by NATO. Mr. Armstrong also leaves out that a major motivation for Ukraine wanting to join NATO was Russia's invasion in 2014 in violation of the Belgrade Agreement.

When Zelensky was elected, he promised to end the civil war and seek peace with Russia. Even Russia was very hopeful for an end to the civil war, which was instigated by the West, and it was Kiev that first attacked the Donbas under the unelected government installed by the West in 2014 before elections.

Russia started the civil war with its invasion in 2014. It was not hopeful to end it except by its eventual annexation of Donbas. The government in 2014 was installed by the democratically elected parliament, not by the West, and had every right to seek to reestablish its sovereign control over the area seized by Russian surrogate forces.

There was never a country of Ukraine. It was fashioned entirely by Khruschev.

Ukraine declared independence in 1918. Even as a Soviet republic, the Treaty on the Creation of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republics the Ukrainian Socialist Soviet Republic was recognized as a separate entity from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic and had the right to leave the Union. All Khruschev did was transfer Crimea from Russia to Ukraine. But the desire among the Ukrainians for independence from Russia goes back centuries. Contrary to Russian dreams, Ukrainians are not Russians.

Putin even sought to explain the importance of the Minsk Agreement to Zelensky to PREVENT war.

The fact that there was a Minsk Agreement in the first place was that Putin had started a war by his invasion of Donbas in 2014.

All Ukraine had to do was honor the Minsk Agreement, and the war would have been over in 24 hours.

Despite Russian propaganda, Ukraine meet all the requirements of Minsk. They passed a law granting autonomy to Donbas and were arranging to hold the required referendum, which Russia blocked. On the other hand, Russia violated Minsk by not withdrawing its forces and by not handing over the border to Ukrainian control.

Zelensky has outlawed the Russian language in the Donbas and their religion. They were no longer allowed to be part of the Orthodox Religion under the Patriarch of Moscow. Zelensky has just announced that Christmas will be December 25th, as in the West. What? These people are to change their religion and no longer speak their native young for a regime that never existed pre-1991? Human Rights dictate that they should have the right to vote on their own future. Only Kiev has the right to stage a revolution – not the Russians who have lived in the Donbas for centuries.

Although understandable, I will not defend the actions against the Russian Orthodox Church. As for the Russian language, it was never outlawed. All that the language law stated was the government institutions must use Ukrainian and that the media must use Ukrainian along side the use of Russian, that Russian could no longer be the sole language used. Nor have the Russians lived in Donbas for centuries. The area is historically Ukrainian. The present Russian population is the result of immigration during the Industrial Revolution. Furthermore, despite have a majority Russian speaking population, the majority is ethnically Ukrainian. All in all, Mr. Armstrong's piece if full of falsehoods and is nothing but Russian propaganda trying to justify Russia's attempt to resubjugate Ukraine.

26 posted on 01/01/2024 2:54:40 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Firehath

Brave new world dem - liberals

Are taking a drubbing

In Ukraine - Israel

The next elections here too


27 posted on 01/01/2024 3:15:14 PM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: MalPearce; kiryandil
When the author doesn’t know the difference between Belgrade (capitol capital of Serbia) and Budapest (capitol capital of Hungary)….

🤷🏻‍♀️

28 posted on 01/01/2024 5:17:56 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. FREE ROCCO! )
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To: delta7
However, our computer warns that this time

Just what and where is this computer? Because it isn't the IBM Sequoia, which he never had access, which doesn't exist anymore.

So we know he is making this up.

29 posted on 01/01/2024 8:35:11 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

You know nothing about Socrates, nor Mr Martin Armstrong. Please research more, for your own benefit.


30 posted on 01/02/2024 6:33:10 AM PST by delta7
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My research included his words from his pages on his own website, like this one: Institutional Time Share

",,,The Most Dynamic Approach to IT Infrastructure Ever Attempted...

,,,The only approach is a true fully functioning Global Artificial Intelligence Computer System that monitors the world economy 24/7.,,

",,,We have constructed the First Fully Functioning Artificial Intelligence System Correlating the Entire World Economy 7 days a week, 24 hours per day.,,

"...We are porting all systems to the IBM Sequoia, which is the fastest Supercomputer in the world with 16 thousand trillion calculations per second monitoring everything that beats and moves worldwide."

"Time Share slots will be available at $5 million up to $100 million annually depending upon the size and international scope of the portfolio. Our actual annual cost just in energy to run such a system is in excess of $6 million"

When Amstrong claims he had rights to sell access to the IBM Sequoia, that it was the worlds most advanced AI, monitoring the "entire world economy" 2/47, he lied.

At best, Socrates is a Excel spreadsheet that is a excuse for Martin to say whatever he wants from a position of authority he does not have.

31 posted on 01/02/2024 4:39:44 PM PST by Widget Jr
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