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Alberta power grid at 'high risk' of rotating power outages
CTV News Edmonton ^ | 01 13 2024 | Staff

Posted on 01/13/2024 7:34:00 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: Tom Tetroxide

Except mine right now. I need a professional review.


21 posted on 01/13/2024 9:12:24 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: smokingfrog; All

Canada has the third largest oil reserves in the world. There should be no “energy shortage.”


Saskatchewan is also at risk for electricity outages.

It has oil and gas, tar sands, huge coal reserves, and the largest uranium deposits in North America.

Another potential crisis created by “conservative” leadership following the orders of leftist elites.


22 posted on 01/13/2024 9:14:53 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: yesthatjallen

They can have my woodstove when they pry it out of my cold dead fingers.


23 posted on 01/13/2024 11:29:33 PM PST by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: steve86

The weather station is probably only at ground level, but Grande Prairie is in the “Foothills”, at the eastern edge of the Rockies ... for some reason, it always gets REALLY cold there, even colder than within the Rockies (Banff was 5 degrees warmer than Calgary yesterday)

-40 (same in C or F), or worse, is not unusual in the Foothills in the winter


24 posted on 01/14/2024 3:54:20 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian vermin out!!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Fortunately her family moved to Edmonton, so we don’t have to go back to Grande Prairie to visit.
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What? You don’t like the smell from the pulp and paper plant blanketing the town? As the saying goes, that’s the smell of money... Grande Prairie by the way is a jumping off point for plenty of resource customers in that part of the world.


25 posted on 01/14/2024 5:29:47 AM PST by hecticskeptic (Q. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? A. About 6 months....)
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To: hecticskeptic
As the saying goes, that’s the smell of money... Grande Prairie by the way is a jumping off point for plenty of resource customers in that part of the world.

Grande Prairie provided great employment for my late Father-In-Law at the Weyerhauser sawmill to be sure! That wasn't the problem, The problem is the sulphur off-gassing that happened periodically. That stuff really did make my wife's family sick at times, which is ironic because part of the reason for the move to Grande Prairie in the first place from Ontario was dur to allergies.

Now, all the major employee parking lots are already electrified with plug-ins, but NOT for electric cars. This time of years engine block heaters are necessary if you want your car to start. As my wife puts it, "things start breaking at -40". It would be folly to have an electric car there.
26 posted on 01/14/2024 5:38:00 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Jonty30

I received an emergency notice from my government on my cell phone to cut my use of electricity to avoid any shorts.
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I can’t imagine that there are that many people in Alberta who have EV cars. However, if there are, it would really tick me off if the temperature outside was -40 and my house was presented with a brown out condition that meant I couldn’t run my furnace because the grid was ‘sucked dry’ to charge EV batteries....

With all the surveillance and control stuff that the EV manufacturers have put in their cars, it would surprise if they weren’t able to execute a ‘do not charge’ mode if a ‘state of emergency’ was declared... if it doesn’t exist now, look for them to do that in the future.


27 posted on 01/14/2024 5:40:43 AM PST by hecticskeptic (Q. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? A. About 6 months....)
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To: Reverend Wright

Jason Kenney and Danielle Smith closed the coal plants and created this circus.

There are a great many names associated with the environmental movement that if allowed to continue will surly be the end of what used to be called a power grid.

When that happens it will not make anyone feel any better when those names begin to be fed into the wood chippers of North America. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country and stop the insanity.

As I see it, from the standpoint of legal effort, in the United States it will need to start and end with Governors and State Legislatures. Texas and Florida might have a chance at stemming the tide. Slim as it might be.

Electric coops in my State have been warning the public for quite some time about the shrinking reliability of the grid due to the inordinate amount of reliable, spelled “base load” power, that has been literally reduced to rubble the last ten or so years.

Seventy gigawatts if memory serves and there is still 20 some odd still on the books and scheduled for destruction. There has been minimal additions, mostly in gas plants fed by the much more price volatile natural gas.

So from electricity as an affordable necessity to being virtually priced out of the market as an unaffordable luxury if available. I don’t think it necessary to say anything about the absolute insanity of allowing what we have already managed to allow by those responsible.

It would seem “We the People bare much responsibility.


28 posted on 01/14/2024 6:28:06 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Grande Prairie provided great employment for my late Father-In-Law at the Weyerhauser sawmill to be sure!
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The ‘Weyerhaeuser mill’ is now all part of Canfor... good customer of ours. I’m interested in the ‘sulphur off-gassing’ issue that you mentioned... How long ago did your wife’s family leave and is the sulphur release still a problem there? I know what you mean about the allergies in Ontario... I knew a number of families who moved to Alberta because they couldn’t handle ragweed season in eastern Canada....

Your comment about block heaters reminds me of something that happened to me years ago... I had a customer in Timmins Ontario which is about a 7 or 8 hour drive north of Toronto. A customer there asked me to come to visit him and I told him I would drive there to do that. He promptly asked me if I had a block heater... I said “no, I had a new car and it had just gone through a serious weeklong cold snap where the temperature was in the -30 degree range and it handled it just fine”. He promptly said “get a block heater... the temperature is -55 here....” As things went, by the time I got to Timmins, they were in the middle of a January thaw and were right at about freezing. One day I was leaving my hotel and noticed that the road was all dug up just down the street. I asked about it and found out that the water main had frozen and a whole section of the town (about 400 people) had been without water for about a week. This got me curious and I asked how that was possible... did they really not put the water main down below the frost line? What I was told was that the water main was down 8 feet but this year, it had been so cold that the frost went down 9 feet and froze it. [Don’t quote me on these depth numbers as this was a long time ago and I might be misremembering this a bit.]

Just as a sidenote... I only use synthetic oil in my vehicles. The viscosity doesn’t change hardly at all when the temperature gets that cold and it makes starting much easier....


29 posted on 01/14/2024 7:16:19 AM PST by hecticskeptic (Q. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? A. About 6 months....)
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I’m interested in the ‘sulphur off-gassing’ issue that you mentioned... How long ago did your wife’s family leave and is the sulphur release still a problem there?

My wife's family moved out about 15 years ago. My M-I-L keeps in contacts with people in the area. The off-gassing corresponds with the amount of activity, and it had been increasing with the oil/gas boom in the area. Grande Prairie itself more than doubled in size since I married my wife in '97. It gets REAL rural real fast up there. I got married in the tiny village of Sexsmith, and my wife was actually in Clairmont (pop. 300), which only had a grain silo, a convenience store/post office, and a curling rink.

I agree 100% on the synthetic oil, especially in older cars.

I am so sad at what happened to Canada. I had once considered it as a possible escape route if things got crazy here. But it is gone.
30 posted on 01/14/2024 7:44:23 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yup... I know where Sexsmith and Clairmont are. I might be headed up that way again soon... there are a bunch of new projects that I need to check out there.

Canada gone to the dogs... hope everyone there makes a concentrate effort to finally push Trudeau out the door. What a disaster he has been.


31 posted on 01/14/2024 8:20:49 AM PST by hecticskeptic (Q. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? A. About 6 months....)
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To: yesthatjallen

Electric grid alert

Going to see a lot more of that in Canada and the U.S. if they keep going with the all electric systems.

Stupidity is unlimited in many elected officials.

It’s why they are in government because the can’t find a real job.


32 posted on 01/14/2024 8:40:28 AM PST by Vaduz
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hope everyone there makes a concentrate effort to finally push Trudeau out the door. What a disaster he has been.

Every time that happens, at best you get a Stephen Harper, who might hold the line and take baby steps (gun registry removal) until he is deemed too radical by the folks in Ontario and BC. Then you get another Trudeau. Every time a decent party pops up, they somehow get co-opted by the Progressive Conservatives so as to be "responsible". That never works.
33 posted on 01/14/2024 10:31:18 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We just moved last month from CDA to Naples. Saturday early morning our neighbors recorded -32.


34 posted on 01/14/2024 11:00:16 AM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: The Unknown Republican

That’s funny...our neighbors and friends a couple doors down have a winter home in Naples. They left about two weeks ago for Naples. We hope to visit them soon.


35 posted on 01/14/2024 11:57:37 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Do you mean Naples, Florida or Naples, Idaho?


36 posted on 01/14/2024 12:10:32 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: The Unknown Republican

Florida.


37 posted on 01/14/2024 12:50:31 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: The Unknown Republican

Did your neighbors move to Naples, ID or Naples, FL?

Naples, ID is one of those places where you blink you miss it. 1,200 in the entire Naples, ID zip code 83847.

I could see people from CDA moving north to up around Bonners Ferry.


38 posted on 01/14/2024 5:05:51 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If you know, you know. A lot of folks are getting out of Kootenai County and moving up north to Bonner and Boundary. We love living in Naples, ID.


39 posted on 01/14/2024 6:03:08 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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