Posted on 01/14/2024 9:18:40 AM PST by hardspunned
The US Navy is ramping up delivery of its new Ford-class nuclear-powered aircraft carriers just as there is demonstrable increased strategic and operational need for the capability an aircraft carrier provides, the Executive Director for the USN’s Program Executive Office (PEO) Carriers told the Surface Navy Association annual symposium in Arlington, Virginia.
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Yes they basically became AA platforms and off-shore artillery support.
The age of the battleship basically ended with the sinking of the Prince of Wales and the Repulse by Japanese aircraft.
The drones don’t have to sink the carrier to take it out of commission.
If Iran is guilty for what Yemenis are doing, then the US is guilty of attacking Russia.
Saloon doors…
It also reflects on pro Putin isolationist posters like yourself
I’ve had concerns about technology obsoleting carriers for a long time. We have so many eggs tied up in eleven baskets that if someone smashes the baskets America is finished for decades or a century as a naval power. I was hoping the drone war in Ukraine would be an eye-opening experience for our planners. Just ignoring the drones, I’ve known several submariners and all of them had a story about how they killed a carrier in a wargame, and it was ruled later as a miss or damage instead of sinking. (The Japanese wargamed the Midway battle and lost significantly twice and a senior admiral overruled the findings. Turns out one of the scenarios was the exact one the Americans used.) A man I worked with was involved in Navy planning back in the fifties and he told me that in order to get the navy built the way we see it today, they had to do away with the reports on how successful mines had been.
The thing is, we haven’t had a near peer conflict. And I don’t think some of the assumptions on how, say, China would go about defeating American interests account for how
China might actually go about defeating the US. Nothing in China gets published in the state media without some level of official okay. Several years ago, a former admiral published an article about how the Chinese would defeat the US and it was by a decapitation strike. All of our planning starts with, “Nobody will use nuclear weapons.” What if that assumption is wrong? When Mao went into Korea, he was told they’d lose a million men. He shrugged. Turns out he was more concerned about a million starving men overthrowing the CCP than he was about a million casualties. China exited the Korean war with the fifth largest AirForce in the world. It was a win for him. You can’t start with the assumption the guy on the other side thinks exactly like you do. Putin, for example, truly sees a different reality than the West does. All of the old Soviet Empire is really Russian, whether they agree or not.
Lastly, wars start when you lose deterrence. We have a leader who is not only compromised by his financial dealings, but he can’t navigate stairs. We look weak, even if he isn’t the one making the big decisions. A study conducted on how criminals choose victims revealed that the number one reason was the victim looked weak or compromised.
America is invading an innocent country to absorb it forever?
No, we are content to install a government that does exactly what we say, and which lets our bankers load them up with debt. That’s completely different... somehow.
Re-purpose carriers to launch drone swarms
You too are posting in support of dead Americans being killed by Russian-supplied weapons to terrorists.
“Navy needs more destroyers”
Is it really true that they cannot re-arm at sea, and that after firing 90 missiles (or whatever the real number is) they have to sail to a friendly port to reload?
“The US Navy is ramping up delivery of its new Ford-class nuclear-powered aircraft carriers...”
Ramping up...that means ready in 7 years instead of 8.
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I am on the side of those who think the carriers will not survive combat with a peer adversary.
But say you're right and that they are much more survivable than I believe.
How much damage to electronics and flight deck components renders air operations impossible? How can you call the ball if the ball is gone? (A simple example).
I agree. There is a place for carriers. As is normal, countries go into war using their strengths. But only a fool takes on the “big guy” using the same tools and tactics the Big Guy got big with.
Graf Spee and Bismarck too.
It’s not that the fleet can’t protect the area....the question is are they being allowed to protect the area?
Yep.
“Its a leadership problem”
Including the endless Policies and Procedures manuals that are expected to substitute and micro manage every situation.
Soon to be made worse by “Generative AI” (aka Policies and Procedures ‘Best Ptactices’) that lower level leaders and followers will be expected to obey . . . when wrong.
Instead of having and hiring attentive, aware, capable, competant, observant, studious, thoughtful people who know history and why we are free:
We are only as free as we are able to defend our freedom and make the effort to know why.
The Germans shouldhave built more U-boats (as Doenitz wanted) and not battlewagons.
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