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Inside Boeing’s plans to fix its troubled KC-46A tanker
Breaking Defense ^ | January 18, 2024 at 9:13 AM | Michael Marrow

Posted on 01/19/2024 4:54:54 AM PST by Fish Speaker

EVERETT, Wash. — In the wake of Boeing’s KC-46A Pegasus topping $7 billion in losses, company officials have been eager to stem the tide of the tanker’s long-running woes — and resolve several critical issues that pose risks to its operations.

The Pegasus currently has six category 1 deficiencies, Air Force terminology for problems that could cause loss of an aircraft, injury, or death. Spending money to fix those issues has helped drive Boeing’s staggering losses on the program, and is a key reason why company officials have sworn off fixed-price development contracts like those that govern the KC-46A.

Work to address the tanker’s predicaments starts in the Seattle suburb of Everett, Wash., where Boeing builds the commercial 767 and converts it into the KC-46A tanker. In a recent tour of these facilities, Breaking Defense spoke with company officials about how they plan to fix several of the tanker’s pressing issues, as well as how the aircraft can evolve for future missions.

(Excerpt) Read more at breakingdefense.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: boeing; boeing46a; boeing46apegasus; boeing767; issues; quality
With all of the news about their issues with commercial aircraft, I thought this was interesting ...
1 posted on 01/19/2024 4:54:54 AM PST by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker
There is a good solution on the market, but no kickbacks are available.
2 posted on 01/19/2024 4:58:58 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Fish Speaker

With all of the news about their issues with commercial aircraft, I thought this was interesting ...
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3 posted on 01/19/2024 5:09:48 AM PST by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Is this the tanker that Boeing won the contract for, then lost because of kickbacks to Northrop, then somehow(?) won again?


4 posted on 01/19/2024 5:17:22 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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Yes. We are also paying Boeing a fortune to build two new Air Force One 747-8’s (now out of production) when they could have just picked up a couple of used A380’s and remodeled them. Or better yet, buy one A380 with an all-economy configuration to to stuff the media into and the President can fly on a Gulfstream. :)


5 posted on 01/19/2024 5:31:08 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Boeing won the contract for the KC-46 with a fixed price bid.

Boeing’s been bleeding red ink over this.


6 posted on 01/19/2024 5:41:14 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Yes. We are also paying Boeing a fortune to build two new Air Force One 747-8’s (now out of production) when they could have just picked up a couple of used A380’s and remodeled them.

They picked up a couple of used 747-8s, the cost of the airframes isn't the issue.

7 posted on 01/19/2024 5:43:11 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Weird bidding war. Northrop’s proposal was smaller and could land on more runways but Boeing’s was bigger and could haul more cargo but the real difference was the fuselage being an American Boeing rather than a European Airbus.


8 posted on 01/19/2024 6:18:00 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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Air Force should have gone with the winner of the tanker competition instead of rigging and re-rigging it to give the contract to Boeing.


9 posted on 01/19/2024 6:20:29 AM PST by PAR35
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This can all be blamed on John McCain. A contract was negotiated with AirBus (I think it was AirBus) to build the next generation tanker but McCain didn't like that so he forced the government to renegotiate the contract so that Boeing would make the plane,and be made by a US company.

While that in itself is noble, Boeing knew they couldn't produce a plane on the level of efficiency as AirBus had proposed and hence the planes that have been coming out are junk. I mean, inspectors have found discarded tools within the walls and floors of the planes. How sad is that?

The KC-46 therefore hasn't been cleared to refuel anything outside the continental United States, and is now considered a stop gap until a better refueler can be made.

You ask how I know all this? I worked for a refueling squadron and I know a lot of the inside scoop on the piece of junk the KC-46 is. Bottom line, our KC-135 aircrews would love for the next generation tanker to be based on the current refueler's airframe but with updated components. They trust it, so far it still works, and it out performs the KC-46 in every way.

10 posted on 01/19/2024 7:26:46 AM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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Want to bet the camera crap is somebody's vision to make the whole process automated and do away with boom operators? So they are going to make the system more reliable by making it more complicated?

Like we have never fueled an A-10 or other slow mover successfully?

We have never had a fueling receptacle subject to water and ice?

Concentric tubes and their couplings and manifolds have always been something good to stay away from.

Never had an APU drain?

Kid stuff self-inflicted complexity. Boeing seems to have developed an inclination to modify beyond the base design's ability. Many of the 737 Max problems stem from an original airplane too low to the ground, stretched too long, making the tail subject to dragging resulting in high landing speeds. Modification taken beyond successful. The 737 design shares designs dating back to the 707, just look at the front end.

11 posted on 01/19/2024 8:08:07 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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