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What does weight really tell us about our health? [Fake News Shills for Big Pharma]
Fake News CNN ^ | 1/18/24 | Sanjay Gupta

Posted on 01/22/2024 2:30:04 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

If you’ve been paying attention to health news recently, you may have noticed a subtle but real shift in the way society discusses body weight. It started about 10 years ago with the body positivity movement, the idea that we should love our bodies at any size.

...transformational changes picked up speed with the arrival of powerful and wildly popular new medications that have already helped many people shed pounds....

...widespread adoption of a powerful and effective new class of medications originally developed to treat type 2 diabetes. Those drugs include semaglutide (sold as Ozempic, Rybelsus and Wegovy) and tirzepatide (sold as Mounjaro and Zepbound) as well as the older liraglutide (sold as Victoza and Saxenda). It’s hard to overestimate their impact on popular culture – and on the bodies of those who take them.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corporatism; health; media; obesity
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Yep. The answer isn't nutrition and exercise.

Drugs. Big Pharma.

Local Miami media was hyping this Pandora's Box recently.

1 posted on 01/22/2024 2:30:04 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Many, many moons ago, while Michael Jordan was still playing basketball, I read about an ‘update’ to the BMI parameters. If you used Jordan’s height / weight with the ‘New & Improved’ BMI index, Jordan qualifies as obese. How many others were told they were obese?

Government + ‘science’ a recipe for death.


2 posted on 01/22/2024 2:44:34 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

One lady took Ozempic and she ended up killing off her teeth.

There is no other solution than exercise and diet.
Also, weight isn’t the issue, but composition. Men should be 15-20% fat and women should be 20-25% fat. If you are there, you are at your proper weight.


3 posted on 01/22/2024 2:45:03 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

BMI is biased towards slimness as the height increases. You can be a willow branch build, but be considered overweight at 7’0”.

That’s why I suggest focusing on your composition. If you are 15-20% as a male and 20-25% as a female, you are not overweight regardless of what the scale says.


4 posted on 01/22/2024 2:48:35 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Jonty30

The problem isn’t the number, it’s how we measure it. The linear scale of BMI is complete BS and has no basis in reality. Even the “inventor” said he never intended for it to be used as an accurate measure of health. Yet here we are.


5 posted on 01/22/2024 3:13:41 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Ozempic is over a thousand dollars a month. It is meant for life long use. Somebody is making bucks!


6 posted on 01/22/2024 3:14:39 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: rarestia

BMI is only good for average range of heights, say 5’6 to 5’10 and it does not take into account that some people can be built like fullbacks, but be good range for their body composition.

It’s really useless.


7 posted on 01/22/2024 3:15:43 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Mathematic and physics are the pinnacle of the sciences, nothing happens in violation of them.

Calories consumed vs calories expended is the basic formula regarding weight gain vs weight loss. There are ZERO exceptions to this simple formula. I don’t give a damn about glandular problems or genetics or any of that crap. Those are real problems certainly but if you consume more calories than you expend, you gain weight. Expend more than you consume you will lose weight.


8 posted on 01/22/2024 3:33:13 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Jonty30

Another gets permanent diarrhea. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ozempic-user-will-suffer-diarrhea-forever-after-weight-loss-drug-caused-life-threatening-injury-to-bowels-lawsuit-claims/ar-AA1mWZK6


9 posted on 01/22/2024 3:49:46 AM PST by No.6
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Weight is, of course, only part of the equation. Exercise--and lots of it--is an imperative.

Without exercise, the body just withers. It is built to move and the more movement it gets, the healthier (and happier) it is.

The good thing is that it is never too late to start. Even an unused body will quickly adapt to exercise.

It is even a great antidote to depression.

10 posted on 01/22/2024 3:58:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Nateman

“Ozempic is over a thousand dollars a month. It is meant for life long use. Somebody is making bucks!”

About the same for Eliquis. And the “somebody” who is making the bucks is Pfizer. Pfizer spams the airwaves with slick expensive commercials every single day. Every time I see one I understand that I’m footing the bill, and that just rots my socks.

Even worse is that a generic exists that was to have been released January 2023. At the last minute, Pfizer worked some scheme that made the release impossible — until MAYBE 2026.


11 posted on 01/22/2024 4:09:54 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: muir_redwoods

Truthfully I thought that until I started having some weird symptoms. Further down the road and here is the rub.. 5 days a week I am a lean eater.. so much so that the A1C doesn’t pick up the aging shift of glucose impairment.
I have been testing A1C for decades, when it first came out it was FDA not cleared for diagnosing diabetes or impairment.
However, the lazy docs disregarded that. I had to fight for a real glucose tolerance test because my workday diet hides the truth about my glucose metabolism.
Unfortunately I am also hypothyroid and cannot store glycogen, so I am stuck.
A low carb diet will starve glycogen dependent tissue.
So calories in and out only works in good health. Your lack of care for there is pitiful. Maybe you should join the my way or else gender benders who are also uncaring.


12 posted on 01/22/2024 4:25:23 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The problem is simple — people eat too much. Eating has become a passtime.


13 posted on 01/22/2024 4:55:12 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: muir_redwoods

physics yes but mathamatics hasn’t been the same since it was determined that a Y Chromosome and a X chromosome can create more than two genders. not sure exactly how many but I’ve heard at last count there were 54 distinct varieties. unless physics steps in to sort this all out...physics will be next.


14 posted on 01/22/2024 4:55:39 AM PST by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the Fes second" L.Star )
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To: Recovering_Democrat

With Gupta, always do the opposite. This article is just a promotional ad for Ozempic. There are going to be so many lives ruined by that.


15 posted on 01/22/2024 5:00:43 AM PST by Codeflier (A Don't worry....be happy )
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To: Recovering_Democrat

After the birth of my second son, I put on about 30 pounds. I look back at the pictures and see that I was pudgy. One day I got on the scale and noticed that I still had the 30-lb weight gain from my pregancy. I realized that there was no baby there and that it was fat. I have taken up running and watching what I eat (everything in moderation, very occasional fast food burgers). My weight goes a bit up and down within 10 lbs depending on whether I am in marathon training, but I haven’t got back up to that 30-lb overage. Exercise has been beneficial for me!


16 posted on 01/22/2024 5:24:00 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Yep - I’m 5’11 and 71, and for a while was 200lbs - I mentioned to a doctor I was trying to lose 15 lbs and she asked me why - if I felt good and had energy for the day, there was no need because being too “skinny” was worse than carrying a few extra lbs.


17 posted on 01/22/2024 5:24:07 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: RoosterRedux

I agree with you about exercise lightening one’s mood. It is hard for me to get out the door for a run, but I am always glad it did it!!


18 posted on 01/22/2024 5:25:34 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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Yep.

I learned a long time ago to trick my body and mind into exercising.

If I start thinking negatively about it, I tell myself to just go for a walk or easy run or easy bike ride or row. Maybe even just a short one.

Once I get started, I always get into the swing of it...and, as you say, am always glad I did.

19 posted on 01/22/2024 5:40:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The equation is academic:

Make people dependent upon the state for medical care, etc., and they tend to vote in support (dem).

This has been ongoing for decades (obesity), but I don’t believe that the manipulators saw its value until the 90s.

The new ‘drugs’ are a logical development in support of the equation, no different than the jabs re the plandemic.


20 posted on 01/22/2024 5:48:30 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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