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Crying Israeli diplomat’s son, 19, ‘intentionally’ ran over Florida cop with motorcycle, may avoid charges due to dad’s immunity: lawyer
New York Post ^ | February 1, 2024 | Nicholas McKntyre

Posted on 02/01/2024 5:30:15 AM PST by Angelino97

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To: PLMerite

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41 posted on 02/01/2024 7:11:08 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: glennaro

Ooooooo......that’s gonna be a downer.


42 posted on 02/01/2024 7:11:53 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: SJackson

Barely a third of Israelis ostensibly subject to the draft actually fulfill their obligation. Would like to see official numbers.

Israeli casualties in Gaza seem far overrepresented by Religious Zionists. Maybe half of the despised Hareidim complete their service, maybe more, without mentioning America’s past clergy exemption.


43 posted on 02/01/2024 7:38:35 AM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Angelino97
If they don't waive diplomatic immunity for the kid, declare the whole family persona non grata and kick their sorry asses back to their home country never to return.
44 posted on 02/01/2024 7:42:01 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pete Dovgan
I don’t like the diplomat immunity thing, but it’s real and it’s international.

It protects our diplomats (and their families) in foreign countries with judicial systems even more corrupt than ours.

45 posted on 02/01/2024 7:43:39 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Miami-Dade State Attorney: “...After receiving confirmation from the State Department, Office of Foreign Missions, that neither the defendant nor his father have diplomatic immunity, we are proceeding as usual with our investigation.”


Call: Florida Department of Law Enforcement 850-410-7000.
web site: https://www.fdle.state.fl.us

Message: Avraham Gil, 19, Aventura, was arrested for intentionally striking a Sunny Isles Beach Police lieutenant on Jan. 27. The lieutenant was conducting a traffic stop, when he saw Gil weaving through traffic and ordered him to stop, according to WPLG. As the cop motioned for Gil to stop, the teen reportedly continued to ride and “intentionally ran him over.”

The officer sustained an “incapacitating” injury to his left leg. Gil was charged with aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting an officer with violence, both felonies, according to court records viewed by The Post.


46 posted on 02/01/2024 7:44:34 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: jjotto

I think it’s around 65-70% of men and a little over half of women. You could find the statistics somewhere, the IDF reports all this stuff.


47 posted on 02/01/2024 7:52:13 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: Angelino97

Little pos and his daddy need to be tossed in the clink.


48 posted on 02/01/2024 8:06:00 AM PST by bgill
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To: jjotto

A nice check to Biden’s campaign will smooth things over.


49 posted on 02/01/2024 8:11:27 AM PST by bgill
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To: NorthMountain

It protects our diplomats (and their families) in foreign countries with judicial systems even more corrupt than ours.

I agree. Some of the things that I have heard from the UN in New York city have given me pause though.


50 posted on 02/01/2024 10:52:47 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

Yes. UN diplomats in particular have a horrid reputation for abusing Diplomatic Immunity.


51 posted on 02/01/2024 11:30:49 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Angelino97
The teenage son of an Israeli diplomat is accused of intentionally driving his motorcycle into a Florida cop because he “hates waiting behind traffic,” but could have his charges dropped because of his father’s immunity, according to his attorney.

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Gil’s father, Eli Gil, is the consul for administration at the Israeli Consulate in Miami.

Consuls have personal immunity? That is for accredited diplomats. Junior's father is a consulur officer, not an ambassador. Not even daddy appears to enjoy the immunity suggested by the article.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/2018-DipConImm_v5_Web.pdf

The term diplomatic immunity is popularly, and erroneously, understood to refer to special protections afforded all employees of foreign governments who are present in the United States as official representatives of their home governments.

[...]

The 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations grants a very limited level of privileges and immunities to consular personnel assigned to consulates that are located outside of capitals. There is a common misunderstanding that consular personnel have diplomatic status and are entitled to diplomatic immunity.

Consular Officers

Consular officers are those members of consular posts who are recognized by both the sending and the host country as fully authorized to perform the broad array of formal consular functions. They have only official acts or functional immunity in respect of both criminal and civil matters, and their personal inviolability is quite limited. Consular officers may be arrested or detained pending trial only if the offense is a felony and that the arrest is made pursuant to a decision by a competent judicial authority (e.g., a warrant issued by an appropriate court). They can be prosecuted for misdemeanors, but remain at liberty pending trial or other disposition of charges. Property of consular officers is not inviolable. Consular officers are not obliged to provide evidence as witnesses in connection with matters involving their official duties, to produce official documents, or to provide expert witness testimony on the laws of the sending country. Absent a bilateral agreement, the family members of consular officers enjoy no personal inviolability and no jurisdictional immunity of any kind.

As indicated, official acts immunity pertains in numerous different circumstances. No law enforcement officer, U.S. Department of State officer, diplomatic mission, or consulate is authorized to determine whether a given set of circumstances constitutes an official act. This is an issue which may only be resolved by the court with subject matter jurisdiction over the alleged crime. Thus, a person enjoying official acts immunity from criminal jurisdiction may be charged with a crime and may, in this connection, always be required to appear in court (in person or through counsel). At this point, however, such person may assert as an affirmative defense that the actions complained of arose in connection with the performance of official acts. If, upon examination of the circumstances complained of, the court agrees, then the court is without jurisdiction to proceed and the case must be dismissed. Law enforcement officers are requested to contact the Department of State before arresting a consular officer, or, if not possible, immediately after arrest.

Consular officers who are full-time practitioners of consular functions are referred to as “career” consular officers. These officers are normally nationals of the sending country who are sent to the United States to perform these functions for a specific period and then are transferred to a further assignment. Career consular officers are prohibited by international law from engaging in professional or commercial activities outside the scope of their official consular functions.

Consular Employees

Consular employees perform the administrative and technical support services for the consular post. They have no personal inviolability, only official acts immunity, and enjoy immunity from the obligation to provide evidence as witnesses only in respect of official acts. Their family members enjoy no personal inviolability or jurisdictional immunities of any kind.

Consular Service Staff

Consular service staff do not enjoy personal inviolability or jurisdictional immunity of any kind, but they do have immunity from the obligation to provide evidence as witnesses in respect of official acts. Their family members enjoy no personal inviolability or jurisdictional immunity of any kind.

https://www.tcsg.edu/tcsgpolicy/files/Chapter_11_Consular_Diplomatic_Immunity_27MAR2023.pdf

Consular Officers

Enjoy privileges and immunity from criminal and civil matters arising from their official duties. For example, Consular Officers may be arrested or detained, pursuant to an arrest warrant, for felony offenses. They may be prosecuted for misdemeanors but may not be arrested or detained prior to trial or other disposition of charges. Officers may issue a citation for traffic violations. Generally, family members enjoy no privileges or immunity.


52 posted on 02/01/2024 11:53:38 AM PST by woodpusher
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To: Angelino97
This is how Magnum P.I. dealt with a serial murderer who had diplomatic immunity. From the episode "Did You See The Sunrise?" from season 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2VQIxE472A

53 posted on 02/01/2024 3:18:39 PM PST by grundle
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To: Liz

They can’t unless the father waives the diplomatic immunity for the son.


54 posted on 02/01/2024 3:21:32 PM PST by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last)
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To: CA Conservative

Miami-Dade State Attorney:

“...After receiving confirmation from the State Department, Office of Foreign Missions, that neither the defendant nor his father have diplomatic immunity, we are proceeding as usual with our investigation.”


55 posted on 02/01/2024 3:26:40 PM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: CA Conservative

Try reading responses on the thread beyond your own.


56 posted on 02/01/2024 3:26:54 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: mewzilla
Would you want your child serving your Deep State?

His father is serving the same Deep State he wants to keep his son away from.

57 posted on 02/01/2024 4:58:01 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: PAR35

Thanks for the info.


58 posted on 02/01/2024 10:13:05 PM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: PAR35

Wow, I forgot she was a spy!


59 posted on 02/01/2024 10:14:27 PM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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