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We Are Not Our Brains
American Thinker ^ | February 1, 2024 | Heidi Klessig, M.D.

Posted on 02/01/2024 9:01:58 AM PST by foxfield

You are not your brain, and brain death does not equal death. Protect yourself from a false “brain death” diagnosis by refusing to be a registered organ donor. But this is not enough. The 2006 update to the Uniform Anatomical Gift Act (UAGA) now mandates that if a person has no documented refusal to donate (and the family cannot be contacted) the coroner, medical examiner, or hospital administrator can donate your body or organs on your behalf. By documenting your refusal to donate in your advanced directive and electronic medical record and by carrying a “refusal to donate” wallet card, you can avoid becoming a living victim of “brain dead” organ harvesting. If a person you know was declared dead by the neurological standard and had organs harvested, then we recommend pursuing litigation. Very few (if any) people meet the legal standard of "irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain, including the brain stem" [emphasis mine]. Their cause of death was the removal of their organs, which violates the ethical principles of non-maleficence and the Dead Donor Rule (DDR), and a medical negligence case can be brought against physicians and a hospital. Medical institutions must prove that "all functions of the entire brain" have reached the point of "irreversible cessation" prior to declaring death, an impossible standard to meet, but that's the law of the land -- at least for now.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brain; death; donation; ethics; medical; organ; organdonation
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A most interesting article about a topic that could use more discussion and consideration than it gets.
1 posted on 02/01/2024 9:01:58 AM PST by foxfield
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To: foxfield

What brainiac thought we were?


2 posted on 02/01/2024 9:03:51 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: foxfield

I have never registered as an organ donor for the reasons highlighted in the article. It’s a real shame it has to be that way but one just cannot trust the medical profession.


3 posted on 02/01/2024 9:05:02 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: foxfield

‘You are not your brain’ and in my case that is a good thing.


4 posted on 02/01/2024 9:11:05 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: foxfield

Having died and returned, I am not an organ donor.

About a year ago, Dr’s were very surprised when a person came back to life ehen thru were harvesting organs, so they overdosed the patient and killed him.

The nurse turned them in and they were arrested for murder.

Ever watch the movie “Heaven Can Wait” with Warren Beaty. It’s hilarious. It’s about this topic.


5 posted on 02/01/2024 9:17:07 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: foxfield

The human brain is more a transmitter and receiver than a processor.


6 posted on 02/01/2024 9:18:35 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: All

In my case, I’ll need two of them “do not donate” tags to cover my bases.


7 posted on 02/01/2024 9:20:28 AM PST by BipolarBob (My investment choice for 2024 is pre-ban menthol cigarettes. )
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To: foxfield

Back in 1993, Democrat PA governor Bob Casey suddenly needed an organ transplant

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/wellness/1993/06/22/gov-caseys-quick-double-transplant/42dcf701-2bba-4e30-b287-fc2774585385/

“For patients on the waiting list for a heart transplant, the average wait is 198 days. For liver transplant patients, the average wait is 67 days. For Casey, a suitable donor of both organs was found in less than 24 hours.”

Magically, a compatible donor was beaten to death by gang members just in time.

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1993/06/16/casey-donor-killed-by-gangs/


8 posted on 02/01/2024 9:20:38 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: foxfield
Here’s my perspective: as an organ recipient first of all, I don’t know the circumstances of my donor’s death. How is the medical profession going to go forward in evaluating the viability of a potential donor? What is it going to take to make organs available to people who need them? Also, for those who don’t know, an organ can’t just be pulled out of someone and sewn into another person. There are strict protocols for who gets what- blood typing for starters. Plus a donor and recipient have to be matched as close as possible. A computerized data base is kept and constantly updated. For more information: https://optn.transplant.hrsa.gov/ https://unos.org/
9 posted on 02/01/2024 9:28:27 AM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: traderrob6

“...one just cannot trust the medical profession.”

Sure you can!

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&q=monty+python+organ+donor&qpvt=monty+python+organ+donor&mid=8E064A33A163AD8812528E064A33A163AD881252&&FORM=VRDGAR


10 posted on 02/01/2024 9:34:14 AM PST by OSHA (Dale Carnegie has a restraining order against me.)
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To: foxfield

Yep no organ donations from me not that they would want my old and probably damaged organs anyway. Once I saw how fast the doctors wanted to declare me brain dead from lack of oxygen when I was in the ICU for sepsis it totally changed my mind about being a possible organ donor.

The hospital tried to browbeat my relatives into pulling the plug saying I was going to be a vegetable because my heart stopped on 2 different occasions for as much as 10 minutes each time causing irreparable brain damage. Well they were wrong. I did receive temporary brain damage from that episode but was mostly able to recover from that several months later. Fortunately my pro-life Evangelical sister wouldn’t allow them to pull the plug, but the pressure from the doctors seriously aggravated her PTSD. Anyway the lesson I learned from this is don’t be too quick in pulling the plug, miracles do happen sometimes.


11 posted on 02/01/2024 9:36:18 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: BipolarBob

In my case, I’ll need two of them “do not donate” tags to cover my bases.

One for each base, I assume.


12 posted on 02/01/2024 9:37:46 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: foxfield

If my organs were donated, the first words out of the surgeons mouth would be WTF?


13 posted on 02/01/2024 9:52:22 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: jimwatx

Thank God you made it through! I’m happy for you!

2 1/2 years ago I received a new liver after waiting four years. I know nothing about my donor, except that he or she was a young person, a juvenile.

NOW WHAT AM I TO THINK, THAT MY DONOR WAS MURDERED?

We trust our doctors, in my case the entire transplant community, to do what is right. Now I have this to think about.

What a can of worms….


14 posted on 02/01/2024 9:57:18 AM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: telescope115

Glad things worked out for you. As a teen I did sign up to be an organ donor and never questioned the possibility that it might cause the doctors to more quickly pronounce me dead in their haste to remove my organs. But after that experience I’m leery of trusting the medical system and some of the decisions they make. Then covid came along to make me even more distrustful of them.


15 posted on 02/01/2024 10:19:36 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: Scrambler Bob

Just make sure your chart has “Full Code” written down somewhere on there. I’m not shy with doctors and tell them straight up that hell yeah I want them to use extraordinary measures to keep me alive lol.

I kinda got the impression from my hospital experience that nowadays once you reach a certain age the medical staff is more inclined to take the position of “oh well this old boy had a good run, let’s just let nature take its course” instead of doing everything possible to keep you alive.


16 posted on 02/01/2024 10:33:43 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: tired&retired

“The human brain is more a transmitter and receiver than a processor.”

that’s certainly a reasonable possibility and has several interesting implications if true, such as:

1. consciousness primarily derives or exists or requires something from outside of our bodies

2. easily accounts for the great bulk of so-called paranormal events

3. there are levels of consciousness, e.g., some organic radios are more sensitive and/or have wider bandwidth than other organic radios

4. it’s likely that what is being transmitted and received is information, where information is “anything that is meaningfully ordered”, which itself is an interesting statement because it implies that information is a function of time as well as a function of the existence of a consciousness that can impart or recognize the meaningfulness criteria ...

5. the level of consciousness of an organism is dependent upon the level at which an organism can attune itself to the cosmic clock, though such time sense is not the sole criteria for the level of consciousness ...


17 posted on 02/01/2024 10:37:29 AM PST by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: catnipman

Also there is a huge mountain of evidence we live in a computer simulation. Nothing in the Bible contradicts that.


18 posted on 02/01/2024 10:52:21 AM PST by BipolarBob (My investment choice for 2024 is pre-ban menthol cigarettes. )
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To: foxfield

I understand that donated organs keep people alive, but the practice has always seemed very macabre. It also leads to a very utilitarian logic that will sacrifice one life for multiple others.


19 posted on 02/01/2024 11:37:23 AM PST by Flying Circus
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To: catnipman

Much of what you say is true.

I started in neuroscience in the 1990’s at the university and have been studying it ever since. Many years of presenting at conferences on the interaction between consciousness and the physical body.

My wife is an MD, Board Certified in Neurology.

Research on this topic is about to change drastically. I asked both Eric Kandell at Columbia, who got the Nobel Prize for his research on the biochemistry of memory storage, and Joe Ledoux at NYU, where memories are stored. Both replied, “In the synapses.”

I demonstrate that they are both wrong by reading the stored memories of total strangers in their consciousness field external to their physical body.


20 posted on 02/01/2024 11:37:51 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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