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Can Europe defend itself without America? It would need to replace military aid, a nuclear umbrella and leadership
The Economist ^ | February 18, 2024 | N/A

Posted on 02/20/2024 3:55:35 PM PST by DoodleBob

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1 posted on 02/20/2024 3:55:35 PM PST by DoodleBob
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NATO is against everything conservatives stand for. Its mass censorship, its grifting, its top-down wokeism, its protection and promotion of Davos globalism - all of it is an enemy of average Americans


2 posted on 02/20/2024 4:01:10 PM PST by PGR88
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“the baleful influence” So much for objective and non-partisan journalism right there. Then again, The Economist was always a rabid leftist rag.


3 posted on 02/20/2024 4:01:20 PM PST by Fungi
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Throughout most of its history, most of Europe has been at war with most of the rest of Europe. The last 75 years, minus the battles around Greece and the Balkans, has been an anomaly. The day we leave, Europe will go back to being the everyone-hates-everyone-else battlefield it has always been, since at least the Bronze Age.


4 posted on 02/20/2024 4:17:08 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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“NATO is against everything conservatives stand for. Its mass censorship, its grifting, its top-down wokeism, its protection and promotion of Davos globalism - all of it is an enemy of average Americans”

Funny, you just described nearly all of the people living in DC!


5 posted on 02/20/2024 4:18:25 PM PST by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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Being next to Russia or Turkey is good motivation to spend a bit.


6 posted on 02/20/2024 4:20:06 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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“NATO is against everything conservatives stand for.”


This !


7 posted on 02/20/2024 4:20:49 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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The EEeeee-Yewwwww needs to step up and cough up 66 Billion Buck$ to pay the US MIC to show the US House how aid for Ukraine should be done.

They are the ones who have The Bear at the door.


8 posted on 02/20/2024 4:21:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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NATO is against everything conservatives stand for. Its mass censorship, its grifting, its top-down wokeism, its protection and promotion of Davos globalism - all of it is an enemy of average Americans

As it is, given the degree to which the ruling elites in countries like the U.K., Ireland, France, Belgium, and Germany are selling out their own citizens, opening the floodgates to a massive number of immigrants from Islamic countries and South Asia, the average citizen in those Western European countries might very well be better off in the Russia orbit.

In other words, what's there to "defend"?

9 posted on 02/20/2024 4:22:42 PM PST by DSH
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Europe needs Germany to step up, but Germany has bent a knee toward Moscow.


10 posted on 02/20/2024 4:24:44 PM PST by linMcHlp
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Europe needs to be made to pay more for its defense, accept that it is a US protectorate, and comprehensively bend the knee to the US on other issues in consequence of its status as a protectorate.


11 posted on 02/20/2024 4:25:20 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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I think the limeys and the krauts ought to be able to come up with something.


12 posted on 02/20/2024 4:27:17 PM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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NATO is protecting the West against communist attacks (China).
But also, NATO protects us from the GINSCA*.

*Globo-Islamo-NeoSoviet-Commie-Alliance

That anti-christian alliance is composed of Russia/Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah/North Korea. Thus, its it TRULY an alliance based on NeoSovietism, Islamism, Communism - on a global scale.

Russia is one of the absolute worst human traffickers of the planet. They are in TIER 3 on the scale. Ukraine is much better placed (thank’s God), and America and Europe have the worlds lowest value on the scale.

Russias tight collaboration with the North Korean commies and its support for the pro-Islamic Iran and anti-Israel stance, makes the Russian Government a degenerated abomination.

The Freedom First citizens of the world will not let this GINSCA corrupt our societies with anti-Christian values and Antifa-style chaos.

Here is Israel’s Likud party responding to the Iran-Russia-Hamas alliance :(viral video):
https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1715046871129841881

Putin ‘forming axis of terror’ as he welcomes Hamas and Iran to Moscow
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/26/putin-forming-axis-of-terror-welcomes-hamas-iran-moscow/


13 posted on 02/20/2024 4:30:55 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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Everyone is missing the point. The real twin terror threats to Europe (and America) are internal: secularist sodomism and fanatical islamism.


14 posted on 02/20/2024 4:31:54 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Sodomism


15 posted on 02/20/2024 4:34:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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Defend from who, the Islamic hordes? Hell, Europe might need Russia to fight that ongoing invasion.


16 posted on 02/20/2024 4:34:53 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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That’s because Clinton handed control of NATO to the EUSSR. Unsurprising it would become a clone of that entity.


17 posted on 02/20/2024 4:37:41 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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American taxpayers have been carrying Europe on our backs for almost 80 years.

It is far past the time to end the stupidity.

Our arrogant stupid “government leaders” have been spending our tax money to protect Europe while Europeans spend their money to benefit themselves.

The idiots in Washington DC borrow money and give it away!
If your neighbors spent all their money on themselves would you take out a bank loan and give the money to them?

Our government idiots give away money that our grandchildren and their children will have to pay.
So far they have given Ukraine about $1,3000,000,000.00 (thats 1.3 trillion dollars) and want to give them more.

Their deficit spending on borrowed money is so huge that the USA spends almost $900 billion a year in interest on the money borrowed to finance the national debt.
Paying that interest is another scam on taxpayers - it’s a way to redistribute tax money to other governments and wealthy, well connected elites.

Why not tell Europe and others to go borrow the money themselves?
If other nations can’t borrow it themselves why should that be the problem of American taxpayers?

Imagine what a difference that interest money would make if it was spent on American infrastructure.
Or even better - not extorted from taxpayers to begin with.


18 posted on 02/20/2024 4:45:25 PM PST by Iron Munro (AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT !!!)
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The EU’s government is so out to lunch it would take them 6 months to get back so they dead


19 posted on 02/20/2024 4:46:55 PM PST by butlerweave
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Are they even worth defending? Why?


20 posted on 02/20/2024 4:54:47 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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