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Proof that nixing vax dissent backfired
New York Post ^ | Feb 21, 2024 | Marc Siegel

Posted on 02/21/2024 8:29:04 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

As a primary care physician, I administer vaccines on a regular basis, from flu to tetanus to pneumonia to shingles.

I bring these vaccines out during doctor visits, and I discuss the pros and cons with my patients while the vaccines are being displayed.

I am completely open about potential side effects.

The core vaccine conversation between doctor and patient is a risk/benefit analysis.

It’s a discussion, one in which the patient decides.

One of the big mistakes made by the Biden administration with the COVID vaccines is not having this discussion.

Rather than keeping expectations realistic — telling folks that the vaccine would lessen the severity of COVID, instead of preventing a patient from getting it — the administration forced as many as it could to get the jab through mandates.

Instead of being up front that there was a slight risk of side effects, the administration put pressure on social media companies to censor any discussion.

Now we have research data from the Global Vaccine Data Network that detail exactly what risks accompany the COVID vaccines......

The benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks, particularly for older Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; covid; covidvax; dissent; freespeech; mandates; socialmedia; vaccine; vax; vaxmandate
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What exactly are the benefits of the "vax"? I believe currently it's less severe symptoms as opposed to the initial 100% effective BS.
1 posted on 02/21/2024 8:29:04 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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They are still trying to kill off old people by pushing the vaxx.

My contribution to the dialog on this topic is my middle finger.

If they want to jab me they will have to murder me first.


2 posted on 02/21/2024 8:34:51 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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So after forcing everyone to get the vaxx, EVEN CHILDREN, under threat of being completely excluded from society and from making a living, under the guise of it being 100% SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, NOW they admit that there might be SOME bad side effects, BUT it’s nothting to worry about.

Everyone responsible for forcing this vaccine on children esp. should be tried and given the death penalty, if found guilty.


3 posted on 02/21/2024 8:36:55 AM PST by imabadboy99
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This must NEVER happen again in the “Land of the Free”. NO Amnesty for these covid vermin!


4 posted on 02/21/2024 8:37:55 AM PST by imabadboy99
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The benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks, particularly for older Americans.

It has been widely reported that the fake vaccine killed far more people than the Fauci Flu did, How exactly is that a benefit??
5 posted on 02/21/2024 8:38:14 AM PST by eyeamok
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“telling folks that the vaccine would lessen the severity of COVID,”

A bold faced lie. Even the drug company CEO’s admitted that in their testimony.


6 posted on 02/21/2024 8:38:43 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: imabadboy99

I agree.


7 posted on 02/21/2024 8:42:30 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Marc Siegel.. still pushing lies and bullshxt.


8 posted on 02/21/2024 8:48:06 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

just had this conversation with my doc

said i was not interested

end of conversation


9 posted on 02/21/2024 8:49:28 AM PST by joshua c
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The vivid vaccine does zero to prevent covid. Its designed to kill you not help you.


10 posted on 02/21/2024 8:52:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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This whole thing was a power play by totalitarians eg Democrats. Democrats used it as an excuse to destroy our military and economy to rid themselves of critical independent thinkers.
Chinese knew what they had created so they went bat schiff crazy with quarantines, so extreme they were welding doors closed, sealing people into their apartments.
Europeans what do expect from them, Rationality? Good luck with that.
The good doctor is correct. Let the patient decide.
As for the military they have been experimented on too much as it is. If it hasn’t gone the complete routine Vaccination protocol, it should be optional.


11 posted on 02/21/2024 8:54:09 AM PST by rellic
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Most people stop trusting, when a gun has been put to their head.

This doctor sounds as though he is still in deep denial of his own culpability in all this.


12 posted on 02/21/2024 8:57:21 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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The fear mongering of the government authorities pretended that the Covid virus would never be like the common flu viruses and Covid would change the way we live forever.

That was never the case and look where we are now - MOST Covid infections, with or without a vaccination beforehand, are no worse than the common flu infections.


13 posted on 02/21/2024 9:06:24 AM PST by Wuli
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I doubt the less severe symptoms benefit too. They calculated that by noting a decrease in hospital admissions. It is as likely that the subsequent variations of the virus were less virulent.


14 posted on 02/21/2024 9:16:09 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (ll)
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“rather than keeping expectations realistic — telling folks that the vaccine would lessen the severity of COVID,”

There have been no studies to prove this. If there have been I haven’t seen

“Instead of being up front that there was a slight risk of side effects,“

Here is where doctors earn the reputation of being closed minded pricks

‘Instead of being up front that there was a risk of SERIOUS AND LASTING side effects,’

Is a true statement none came out with


15 posted on 02/21/2024 9:28:47 AM PST by stanne
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“Slight” risk

BS. They lied about the risks then and still are lying

My MIl spent the last year of her life bedridden and depressed thanks to contacting Guillian Barre from one of these “boosters”

I personally know 5 people who developed myocarditis from these shots and 1 will be on meds the rest of his life and likely die young thanks to the permanent damage it did to his heart.

Yet they claim, to this day, the risk is 1 in 13,000 to develop myocarditis.

With those odds, lif I know 200 who got vaccinated people personally, then the odds me knowing 5 people who got myocarditis from the shots would be 1 in 1.16 Billlion!!!! Yet here I stand, apparently one of the luckiest MFers on the planet alive today, if I take them at their word.

They have lied about the not only the benefits but the risks from day one and are still doing so today.


16 posted on 02/21/2024 9:33:05 AM PST by HamiltonJay ( )
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Trust is very difficult to regain. It is especially difficult after repeatedly lying then subsequently confessing.


17 posted on 02/21/2024 9:37:22 AM PST by alternatives?
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To: CodeToad

If I remember correctly, there were quite a few Vaxx shills here in 2020 and 2021. If any of them (especially those with medical credentials) apologized, I missed it.


18 posted on 02/21/2024 9:40:45 AM PST by TheConservativeBanker ($;)
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This “doctor” is delusional. How can he possibly say that the benefits and risks of COVID vaccines should have been shared with the public when nobody who was involved in peddling the stupid things even knew what the benefits and risks were?

Medical doctors and “public health officials” are in a tight race to see which profession was more thoroughly discredited during the COVID fiasco.

19 posted on 02/21/2024 9:47:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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The benefits of the vaccines far outweigh the risks

Riiiight. Because everyone needs an experimental “vaccine” that doesn’t prevent infection or transmission, that cannot be proven to reduce the risk of “severe” illness or death, and which 99.9% of the population has absolutely no need whatsoever to get, because to that 99.9%, “COVID” poses no greater threat than the flu or a common cold, and because getting it isn’t going to “save grandma”, since you can still get and transmit it.

20 posted on 02/21/2024 10:02:05 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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