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Haley Is Exposing Trump's Electoral Weakness; The numbers from South Carolina are bad for Trump. They're also part of a pattern. (NeverTrumper delusion alert)
The Bulwark ^ | February 26, 2024 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 02/26/2024 7:42:01 PM PST by DoodleBob

I’ve been taking the under on Nikki Haley for several weeks now and I’ve been wrong every time. So I looked under the hood on the South Carolina results and what I see is a signal that Trump is weaker than he looks.

Let’s start with the exit polls.

Haley kept it close: independent voters made up 22 percent of the electorate and she won them 62-37. South Carolina is an open primary, so this was a case of independents showing up to vote against Trump in a meaningless contest. That’s bad news for him.

Among people who thought the economy was either “good” (Haley +73) or “not so good” (Haley +1) Haley fought Trump to better than a draw.

This matters because Biden’s theory of the case is that the economy is good and people are going to recognize that. If Biden can even get voters to “ehhh, the economy is not so good,” suddenly voters are much less receptive to Trump.

Haley beat Trump by +9 with voters with a college degree. That’s expected, but still a point of weakness.

Not expected: Among married Republicans Trump was only +3. In recent elections, married voters have been a huge area of strength for Republicans—Trump was +7 among marrieds in 2020. South Carolina shows us that half of a core Republican bloc is turning out to vote against Trump even when his opponent has no chance of winning. Not great for him.

But it keeps getting worse: Nearly a third of the voters said that Trump isn’t fit to serve as president and Haley won them by Saddam Hussein numbers.

Last data point, which is something I’ve been fixated on since I did The Focus Group a couple weeks ago: Among voters who believe that Trump lost in 2020, his numbers are ghastly.

Important to note: 36 percent of the electorate said that yes, Biden won fair and square. And with those people, Haley was +64.1

I am growing convinced that forcing Trump to claim that he actually won in 2020—and belaboring that point over and over and over again—is a key to victory in 2024. When people see Trump lying about something they know isn’t true, it pits him against them, makes the relationship between Trump and the voter adversarial. The voters say, “Wait a minute, this guy is trying to scam me.”

And Trump is trapped because he’s so committed to the Big Lie that he can’t back down from it now.

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Side note: Long time readers know that I don’t do hopeium here. I might be the most fatalistic guy at The Bulwark. But I’m realistic, too, and the numbers here demonstrate very clearly that Trump has a couple of giant soft spots that can be exploited with voters.

If you want measured analysis—not cheerleading, but not doomscrolling either—then you should be with us this election. We don’t play both-sides games. We don’t platform bad actors. We see the world clearly and we fight for liberal democracy. That’s the job.

Come ride with us.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 000001utterbs; 0001leftypropaganda; jonathanvlast; nevertrumper; nikkihaley; thebulfart; thebulwark
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1 posted on 02/26/2024 7:42:01 PM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Yawn. Whatever.


2 posted on 02/26/2024 7:47:33 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: DoodleBob

Ask the Koch brothers how well they think Nikki is doing.


3 posted on 02/26/2024 7:48:39 PM PST by Parley Baer (.)
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To: DoodleBob

Here is how I see it:

Trump may not be the answer. There may be no answer, and things may go to Hell under him.

But while it is possible Trump is not the answer-he sure as Hell is not the problem.

And I will crawl on broken glass to ensure we give ourselves the best way out of this, if a way does still exist.

And that way is definitely not the Left, and it is not the RINOs or Globalists.


4 posted on 02/26/2024 7:48:41 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: DoodleBob

Nikki Haley is exposing her true colors.


5 posted on 02/26/2024 7:49:16 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: DoodleBob

Bill Kristol/NeoCon talking points.


7 posted on 02/26/2024 7:50:36 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: DoodleBob

60% is ..... BAD”

Riiiiiiight


8 posted on 02/26/2024 7:52:01 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: DoodleBob
Trump won the 2016 Republican primaries by a landslide even though he only had the support of about 45% of the GOP voters.

He’s been north of 60% for a long time now.

9 posted on 02/26/2024 7:53:34 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: DoodleBob

Largest primary electoral win margin in the history of the state.
Largest margin of loss ever experienced by a candidate in the state.
Most delegates ever won by a candidate in the state.
She literally did this all in her HOME STATE!
Quickest time ever to see an election called.

Talk about being completely delusional!


10 posted on 02/26/2024 7:56:21 PM PST by Skwor
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To: DoodleBob

Eggs are $5 a dozen.


11 posted on 02/26/2024 7:59:42 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: All

This all derives from a desperate hope that politics has not really, truly, been redefined by Trump.

Populism means a political career is something to be held in contempt. These Never Trump types can’t possibly look in the mirror and declare to themselves that they are worthy of contempt. They think they are noble and if only they can erase Trump, then everything will go back to what it was and all these Trump voters will gravitate where they belong, supporting self declared elites.


12 posted on 02/26/2024 8:00:10 PM PST by Owen (.)
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To: DoodleBob
"South Carolina is an open primary, so this was a case of independents showing up to vote against Trump in a meaningless contest. "

Independents or dems or RINOs or whoever.

13 posted on 02/26/2024 8:01:55 PM PST by plain talk
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To: DoodleBob

This guy is insane. Looking at all his numbers, you would think Nikita won big.


14 posted on 02/26/2024 8:02:53 PM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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To: DoodleBob

Baris tore this apart on his show.

There is zero weakness and Nick Knack Paddywhack Give a Uke a Bomb is a closet DemoKKKrat, the evil skankchop.


15 posted on 02/26/2024 8:05:19 PM PST by LS
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To: DoodleBob

I quit reading when I read “it was a case of independents showing up to vote against Trump”. In an open primary the Dems didn’t turn out in their own primary, they turned out against Trump in the Republican one. Now count those Dems with Independents and Nimrata still lost.


16 posted on 02/26/2024 8:06:51 PM PST by lula (Shine the light of truth Lord, confound the deceiver I pray...AMEN!)
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To: DoodleBob

At least a third of her voters were democrats who will vote for Biden. Most of them in the Charleston area were rich elites descended from slave owners according to Rich Baris’s analysis.


17 posted on 02/26/2024 8:10:55 PM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: DoodleBob

Flawed as he is, I’m betting Trump will survive his victory in SC.


18 posted on 02/26/2024 8:18:41 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: plain talk

Everyone acts as if all independents lean left!
They don’t!

There are many who are independents who no longer feel like their party supports their views, I am one of them.

I sure as hell will vote for Trump because he has proven to be a fighter and loves the country.

All this talk about Trump losing independents is .. CRAP!


19 posted on 02/26/2024 8:19:06 PM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: DoodleBob

😴😴😴😴😴😴


20 posted on 02/26/2024 8:20:43 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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