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To: blitz128

Any war you didn’t win, you lost. Don’t get me wrong, and I hate it for the USA, but we haven’t won a major conflict since WW2. That’s just scary.


52 posted on 02/27/2024 4:34:56 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: moovova

This may be the first war since ww2 where a win and loss can be declared.
Unlike our recents wars specifically iraq and Afghanistan, the local populace for the most part there is no national identity, and foreign fighters were the major combatants.
The problem in these wars is what actually is a win?

The Germans and the Japanese people essentially moved on as the govt changed. In Iraq and Afghanistan the elephant in the room is islam

Not shockingly the same holds true with Israel’s conflict. It’s not Israel against a country, but an ideology

The Ukranians are fighting for their country, culture.., the Russians besides for putins desires not sure except for money what they are fighting for.

Russian thinking is a difficult thing to wrap one’s head around


55 posted on 02/28/2024 3:43:13 AM PST by blitz128
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To: moovova

Korea was technically still on-going, so it’s neither a win nor a loss.

As far as Vietnam was concerned, that was closer to a win on our part. We helmed the peace talks, which is usually done by the winner of a conflict. Dennis Prager made that much clear in this video, and we even were going to declare a holiday at the time: Victory in Vietnam Day. What ACTUALLY happened was that the Supermajority of Democrats took advantage of their newfound supermajority as a result of the Watergate scandal and Nixon’s resignation and backed off of our obligation to supply piecemeal aid to the South Vietnamese and thus outright sabotaged their chances. Here’s the video explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk

And if we count proxy wars where we had indirect involvement, we actually won the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan and several battles during the 1980s, firmly won (though I’ll acknowledge Afghanistan was pyrrhic due to al Quaeda’s rise).


58 posted on 03/16/2024 5:35:40 PM PDT by otness_e
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