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Ukraine Can’t Win the War
Time ^ | FEBRUARY 24, 2024 | ANATOL LIEVEN

Posted on 03/02/2024 10:01:14 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

The long-awaited counteroffensive last year failed. Russia has recaptured Avdiivka, its biggest war gain in nine months. President Volodymyr Zelensky has been forced to quietly acknowledge the new military reality. The Biden Administration’s strategy is now to sustain Ukrainian defense until after the U.S. presidential elections, in the hope of wearing down Russian forces in a long war of attrition.

This strategy seems sensible enough, but contains one crucially important implication and one potentially disastrous flaw, which are not yet being seriously addressed in public debates in the West or Ukraine. The implication of Ukraine standing indefinitely on the defensive—even if it does so successfully—is that the territories currently occupied by Russia are lost. Russia will never agree at the negotiating table to surrender land that it has managed to hold on the battlefield.

This does not mean that Ukraine should be asked to formally surrender these lands, for that would be impossible for any Ukrainian government. But it does mean that—as Zelensky proposed early in the war with regard to Crimea and the eastern Donbas—the territorial issue will have to be shelved for future talks.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: anatollieven; bidenswar; duh; killkillkillforpeace; matlock; time; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/02/2024 10:01:14 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Got a feelin’ Jo Jo and Barry Sombrero will be sending some Feddies to “Time” to help them get their heads right.


2 posted on 03/02/2024 10:04:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to stop all aid to countries who send their people to the U.S. for "a better life." )
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s been apparent since the Great Ukrainian Offensive went sideways.


3 posted on 03/02/2024 10:08:51 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Another war lost by America.

When are we going to make the American military Great Again?


4 posted on 03/02/2024 10:10:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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Valerii Zaluzhnyi wanted to mobilize extra 500,000 soldiers for his army. Zelensky said no and had him replaced as the Commander.

5 posted on 03/02/2024 10:11:29 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Crimea and Donbas shelved for future talks?!?


6 posted on 03/02/2024 10:12:19 PM PST by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Paladin2
Another war lost by America.

The MIC is never interested in winning wars. It's all business. Ike warned us about the MIC.

7 posted on 03/02/2024 10:12:41 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Trump wins and takes office in January, he will end the Ukraine war within a week (and not get credit for it).


8 posted on 03/02/2024 10:12:43 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

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9 posted on 03/02/2024 10:13:17 PM PST by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The Biden Administration’s strategy is now to sustain Ukrainian defense until after the U.S. presidential elections, in the hope of wearing down Russian forces in a long war of attrition.

This strategy seems sensible enough,”

Well...no. It doesn’t seem sensible at all.


10 posted on 03/02/2024 10:15:14 PM PST by FreedomForce
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The Biden Administration is ruled by the Deep State. They don’t want the war to end quickly. They got 20 years out of Afghanistan. This war in Ukraine is just getting started.


11 posted on 03/02/2024 10:17:37 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Valerii Zaluzhnyi wanted to mobilize extra 500,000 soldiers for his army. Zelensky said no and had him replaced as the Commander.


12 posted on 03/02/2024 10:18:21 PM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wars by the US may only start to be won if we can deeply smite Tik-tok.


13 posted on 03/02/2024 10:29:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: unclebankster

The ukraine was neverf in a position to win a combat war with Russia. From almost the first of the Russian aggression in the region in 2024, the US has been providing assistance.

After Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014, the Obama Administration provided Ukraine non-lethal security assistance. (Whatever that is as if it’s non-lethal, it doesn’t provide security) In 2017, the Trump Administration announced U.S. readiness to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine. But the Ukraine issue started back in 1991 when they told Russia they were leaving. The help in the 1990’s was from USAID who helped establish an independent media, an active civil society, and a broader entrepreneurial class. All liberal points which of the last one being investment opportunities.

wy69


14 posted on 03/02/2024 10:30:40 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Can’t win? Many of us knew that from the beginning. War looked like the perfect way to weaken the US. Trump’s military advisor said months ago on Rumble that we’ve sent the Ukes so many of our weapons, we can’t defend ourselves.


15 posted on 03/02/2024 10:36:32 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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So you realize that but don’t realize all the hatred and propaganda we churn out about Russia is rooted in feeding the MIC?


16 posted on 03/02/2024 11:07:17 PM PST by Kazan
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If it was up to me, I’ll be more aggressive in helping Ukraine. Then I’ll push for a ceasefire. Sort of like Powell Doctrine. Overwhelming force with an exit plan.


17 posted on 03/02/2024 11:11:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Biden can’t take another defeat like Afghanistan. Look for him to “be more flexible after his reelection”. But that looks unlikely barring another steal.


18 posted on 03/02/2024 11:15:49 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Biden can’t take another defeat like Afghanistan.

With the way things are going, Russia will conquer Ukraine. Biden is probably the worst president since Woodrow Wilson (because he got us involved in the Great War).

19 posted on 03/02/2024 11:18:17 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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“If it was up to me, I’ll be more aggressive in helping Ukraine. Then I’ll push for a ceasefire. Sort of like Powell Doctrine. Overwhelming force with an exit plan.”

What more can we do besides getting directly involved? How can we do more?


20 posted on 03/02/2024 11:31:41 PM PST by rxh4n1
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