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1 posted on 03/16/2024 11:03:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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So Leftists want ban guns for American citizens but not for illegal aliens


2 posted on 03/16/2024 11:09:08 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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I sense the leftist judges are building a legal theory here... You can’t ban illegals from having guns because the constitution limits the government from doing so...

Ergo, illegals have the right to vote for president because it’s not in the constitution either.


3 posted on 03/16/2024 11:11:45 AM PDT by Skywise
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The jokes just write themselves with these arseholes.....LOL


4 posted on 03/16/2024 11:18:09 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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They are CRIMINAL, ILLEGAL, ALIEN INVADERS — THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS!

The “law” is an asswipe.


5 posted on 03/16/2024 11:20:46 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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What?? In my 40 years in this country, I have always believed that, as a non-citizen, I was not allowed to own a gun.

Is that wrong?

6 posted on 03/16/2024 11:20:58 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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This is due to SCOTUS inventing two different tests for applying Constitutional amendments.

1) For the 14th Amendment: every living, breathing human being is a "person" to whom "substantive due process" must be applied. That's how we got the "right" to an abortion and "gay marriage" and why school districts cannot exclude illegals from schools and their benefits. Judges love this expansive interpretation of "due process" because it allows them to enforce gentry class liberal policies without the messiness of democracy.

2) the "people" as mentioned in the 2nd Amendment. This has been limited to US citizens in some rulings.

One or the other definition has to give, or we need some casuistry to justify why the group covered by the 14th Amendment is broader than the 2nd. I expect we'll get more casuistry.

10 posted on 03/16/2024 11:38:59 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Of course.


12 posted on 03/16/2024 11:48:23 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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Of course, we knew this was coming.

Once you throw away the concept of citizenship - as was most egregiously done in Plyler v. Doe - then everyone is a “citizen”, and no one is!

So what the dimbulb judge has done is to equate mere personhood and presence in the US with citizenship. Others on this thread have noted this. Once you do this, then everyone on Planet Earth is an American, and of course have Constitutional rights.

In this situation, we now have the following:

- A coupla divisions of the PLA shows up on the border in Lukeville dressed in civilian clothes. Since we have no right to exclude anyone on the basis of race (borders are racist, right?) then they are immediately granted entry.

- Since “judge” Coleman says they have 2nd Amendment rights, they are free to carry their QBZ rifles with them.

Ta Da! China now has an army inside the Untied Estates and it’s all legal like!

Turbo charged invasion and takeover. Did I ferget?! They must be handed voting registration cards upon entry, to “protect and fortify democracy”.


14 posted on 03/16/2024 12:11:49 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Cheeses & Rice...


15 posted on 03/16/2024 12:13:09 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (Clown World)
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When you all understand that politicians want you dead, you’ll get their underlying cause for all of the madness. You’re a stain on mother earth. You need to be eliminated without the elites getting in trouble.


19 posted on 03/16/2024 12:31:54 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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I think I understand the judge’s reasoning. SCOTUS has ruled that the 2nd Amendment must be judged by historical standards. Were non-citizens deprived of the right to possess firearms in 1792? Were there any laws to that effect in force at the time? And was there any differentiation between legal and illegal immigrants at the time?

Now how did Señor Heriberto Carbajal-Flores come to possess the firearm in question? Did he buy it from a federally licensed dealer and pass the required background check? Is the firearm stolen?

And maybe more importantly, why wasn’t he charged with the crime of being in the U.S. illegally?


20 posted on 03/16/2024 12:40:03 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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Convicted felons cannot own guns
But illegals have not (and won’t be under Biden) convicted of anything
Isn’t breaking immigration law a felony?
So they have the right to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment
Nothing in that wording says US citizens only
Yet they want to deny this right to American veterans
Time for Congress to pass an appropriate law (which they won’t, as banning TikTok is more of a priority for Congress


21 posted on 03/16/2024 12:41:30 PM PDT by tips up (When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Dunno about u limit, but i am about done.


22 posted on 03/16/2024 12:41:57 PM PDT by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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If illegals can vote, they should have guns too.


23 posted on 03/16/2024 12:51:16 PM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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One step closer to Democrats getting illegal immigrants to vote.


24 posted on 03/16/2024 1:21:08 PM PDT by Obadiah
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Hell no!

However...

If we think that would stop them tapping the weapons and
ammunition the Left has been stockpiling for them, we’re
kidding ourselves.


26 posted on 03/16/2024 1:39:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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The “Judge” is a Pygmy cannibal. That’s all you have to know.

The moral rot and destruction of the USA started when primitive low IQ savages were appointed into positions of power.

Those tribal jungle chieftains now “govern” nearly every urban city in America. They will eventually be replaced by even lower IQ, Aztec warlords. This is the present and future of the USA.


27 posted on 03/16/2024 2:12:51 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Mr. Mojo; rdcbn1; Skywise; Carriage Hill; Churchillspirit; usurper
Only an Obama judge could rule that way. These people first of all consult the social media posts and only then look for a distorted interpretation of the Constitution. However, they would never be distracted by the following statements or attempt to connect the two.

“We the people of the United States” It doesn’t say in the United States, does it?.

“A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

29 posted on 03/16/2024 3:14:00 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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From the earlier thread on this subject:


First the Huns are allowed inside the gates...

Now we are going to arm them...

Does the former Constitution say it applies to non-citizens as well as American citizens...

The logical result of this ruling clearly means that the migrant invader vermin also have the right to vote...

Let’s see:
- The MIVs have a right to welfare...
- The MIVs have a right to education...
- The MIVs have a right to medical care...
- The MIVs have a right to drive...
- The MIVs have a right to free housing...
- The MIVs have a right to arm themselves to rob & murder us...
- The MIVs have a right to bank accounts...
- The MIVs have a right to send tax-free money to foreign countries...
and, in half the states,
- The MIVs have a cultural-right to rape, murder, and pillage...


30 posted on 03/16/2024 3:19:02 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Though not convicted, EVERY illegal alien in the USA is a FELON!

Felons are not permitted to own weapons!

This LIEberal insanity will be the ruin of the USA!


31 posted on 03/16/2024 4:19:51 PM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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