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The Electric Car Fiasco
Townhall ^ | 03/22/2024 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/22/2024 7:48:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Donald Trump's anodyne if overexcited comment that the U.S. auto industry would face a "bloodbath" if he's not elected and doesn't impose 50% or 100% tariffs on cars produced predictable results.

"Don't outsmart yourself," Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) posted, and Joe Biden's campaign promptly charged Trump with promising a "bloodbath" if he loses, without saying that he used a common metaphor and was talking about the auto industry.

That's a subject Team Biden is understandably touchy about, given the conspicuous fiasco of its electric vehicle policies.

It's summed up in a lengthy Wall Street Journal report on how a "dramatic societal shift to electric cars" had "overlooked an important constituency: the consumer."

The evidence is plentiful. Manufacturers have been cutting prices as dealers' lots filled up with unsold electrics. Ford is halving its output of electric F-150 trucks in its Dearborn, Michigan, plant. General Motors dealers are pressing the company to reverse its strategy, cut EV production, and build hybrids instead. Tesla CEO Elon Musk warned of "notably lower" EV production.

Expectations elsewhere went unmet. Hertz sold off 20,000 rental EVs at a loss of $245 million and fired its CEO, a Goldman Sachs alumnus. EV startup Fisker, which defaulted on $192 million in Obama administration loans, is reportedly preparing for bankruptcy. Apple is shutting down its multibillion-dollar electric car division.

"Plans for an EV-led industrial revolution are in full-scale retreat" in Britain, France, and Germany, the London-based Telegraph reported. "It looks like all those 'well-paid green jobs' are going to take a little longer to arrive than anyone anticipated."

Liberals justify the $7,500 consumer subsidies for EVs as a way to reduce carbon emissions. But, of course, reductions depend on where the electricity, and the rare earths and metals in batteries, come from. Meanwhile, the environmental pitch may have boosted sales among Democrats, but it also has resulted in low sales to Republicans.

These attitudes correlate with geography. EVs may be practical to zip about in the mild weather of the Pacific Coast and over the short distances of the Northeast -- Biden territory in 2020. But EV batteries run out of charge over long distances, when it's freezing outside, or when you've got your air conditioning on -- all common experiences in the South, Midwest and Rocky Mountain states, which Trump carried in 2016 and 2020.

It's not hard to see, although government projections seem to have missed it, that many people would be reluctant to pay more for a vehicle likely to totally stop functioning in common use, and much more expensive to repair.

And irksome to charge. In the 1920s, the private sector built vast networks of gas stations capable of refueling a vehicle in five or 10 minutes. In the 2020s, the government has taken on the task of building electric charging stations, with predictable results. After more than two years, the $5 billion 2021 charging station program has produced exactly eight charging stations.

In the marketplace, it's clear the demand for electric vehicles is much smaller than that predicted by environmental enthusiasts and imposed on carmakers by the Biden administration. Toyota's hybrid gasoline-and-electric vehicles, while less fashionable in certain quarters than battery-powered EVs, are rated as more reliable and just as green, and they are outselling the all-electrics.

As the late economist Herbert Stein said, "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop." Projections for EV sales have fallen woefully short month after month. The Environmental Protection Agency projects EV sales will rise from 7.6% in 2023 to 67% in 2032, but the EPA's tailpipe regulations, the tool used to raise EV sales, are not on track to do so.

At least not without drastically cutting total auto production. Environmental nonprofit organizations may not mind that, but the United Auto Workers, which represents workers at Detroit's Big Three but not at Tesla or foreign-based companies, does and has demanded the administration change policy.

Which it has, sort of. The EPA is now announcing it won't enforce EV sales requirements until 2030. But it still says it's requiring two-thirds by 2032.

As you may have noticed, there are three presidential elections between now and late 2032, when Biden will turn 90 and Trump 86. Team Biden is obviously fiddling with its failed EV policies in the hopes of smoothing over the differences between its environmentalist and union constituencies, Marin County, California, and Macomb County, Michigan. That might work, up through Election Day.

Then, whoever wins, there will come something you might provocatively call a bloodbath. For an industry with large capital needs and long lead times, or for environmentalists determined to phase out vehicles that most consumers prefer and can afford -- maybe for both.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; climatechange; electric; ev; scam
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1 posted on 03/22/2024 7:48:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So typical of the Democrat Spin Machine.


2 posted on 03/22/2024 7:50:14 AM PDT by econjack
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To: SeekAndFind
"It looks like all those 'well-paid green jobs' are going to take a little longer to arrive than anyone anticipated."

"Anybody?"

3 posted on 03/22/2024 7:52:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am so glad I traded in my Toyota hybrid, which was a great car, just before the crash last summer. At the time I got more than I paid for it. Now, I’d lose almost half.


4 posted on 03/22/2024 7:53:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: econjack
”…After more than two years, the $5 billion 2021 charging station program has produced exactly eight charging stations...”

Into whose campaign coffers did that $5 billion go?

5 posted on 03/22/2024 7:56:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: rlmorel

As long as the “big guy” got his 10%, democraps don’t care..


6 posted on 03/22/2024 8:00:33 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: SeekAndFind

Another one of 10,000 reasons why government is making you poorer.

with no government mandates, automakers could supply gas (and especially diesel) cars that would be simple, cheap, and could last 1 million miles, without needing computers to run them to manage their fuel consumption.

The green energy scam is built on zero interest rates, massive debt, globalized supply chains, and trust in government

All those things have reserved or are in trouble.


7 posted on 03/22/2024 8:03:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve always disagreed with leftists and their generally stupid ideas. But I’ve grown to despise these people deeply because I know they are deliberately out to harm this country and anyone who doesn’t kowtow to their beliefs. They are mortal enemies and no quarter should be given. We have to fight them at every turn.


8 posted on 03/22/2024 8:05:10 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Yep. Absolutely. This looks like an “in your face” situation for Leftists.

They get to steal taxpayer money, and laugh about it, because nobody is going to do anything about it.


9 posted on 03/22/2024 8:05:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Reno89519
It'll be interesting to see if hybrid and BEV prices go back up after the election if the Dims stay in charge and jack up gas prices again.

IMHO, the fad of EV's has died down and EV prices are down to their intrinsic value (though with an artificial boost in price from the EV tax credit, just like other tax subsides boost prices in tuition and such). And an EV's intrinsic value is related to gas prices. Also right now, Biden's handlers have lowered gas prices during election season, which IMHO is downward pressure on EV prices (less demand for EV's if gas price is lower than it was a year or two ago).

If the vote fraud is contained and Trump goes back into the WH, gas prices will go even lower and, likewise, EV demand will go down lower. But if Xiden stays in the WH then gas prices will skyrocket again and EV prices will also go back up. (Maybe not as high as before because the fad value probably won't be recreated. But more people than today might see an EV as practical if they drive a lot of miles and want to avoid $5/gallon gas.)

10 posted on 03/22/2024 8:06:28 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"...Donald Trump's anodyne if overexcited comment that the U.S. auto industry would face a "bloodbath" if he's not elected and doesn't impose 50% or 100% tariffs on cars produced predictable results..."

"Overexcited comment"?

"Overexcited" only if you don't work in American automotive manufacturing, sell American cars, or don't think a functioning and profitable automotive industry is essential to the overall health of the American economy.

11 posted on 03/22/2024 8:13:55 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Tell It Right

EV’s were/are nothing but a fad so the virtue signalers can make themselves morally superior to the rest of us proles.


12 posted on 03/22/2024 8:20:25 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The whole point is to make personal transportation unaffordable for the masses.


13 posted on 03/22/2024 8:23:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Correct. Everyone has to move into a 15 minute city with affordable public transportation.

My ‘05 F350 V8 Turbo-diesel disagrees..


14 posted on 03/22/2024 8:27:17 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
My wife and I drove our EV 26K miles last year, with 16K of those miles charged at home. The gas savings of an EV is real, but only if you drive enough miles to be more than worth the costs that come with an EV.

Other things IMHO are you ought to be married so that you have two cars anyway, with the other car being a gas car for the times an EV won't do, and live in a warm climate, and have a place at home to set up a home charger. Look up most of the road trips you make and be sure that there are plenty of charging options (otherwise in our case we'd have to take the old gas pickup). Last but not least, be in the market for a car anyway (it was time to replace my wife's car). Only if all of those conditions apply should one consider getting an EV. But if someone's in that situation, an EV might be worth considering.

15 posted on 03/22/2024 8:29:12 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden doesn’t give a fig about the environment. His big push to EVs is based on the simple fact that carbon industries support Republicans and capitalism. Green companies are dependent on Democrats, government subsidies and mandates.


16 posted on 03/22/2024 8:37:49 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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17 posted on 03/22/2024 9:01:56 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: DeplorablePaul

I think Biden enacts these radical policies to prove he’s a bigger badass than Obama. It’s petty oneupmanship at the expense of the country.


18 posted on 03/22/2024 9:06:07 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

True. Biden gives the far left free reign on his policies.


19 posted on 03/22/2024 9:41:46 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: SeekAndFind

I sure had a good time this morning driving uptown for my free oil change on my 23 SS with 6,2 L V8. Coming back home was the fun part traffic cleared out


20 posted on 03/22/2024 10:13:05 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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