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Remember That Time the EPA Killed the Sedan?
The New Republic ^ | March 22, 2024 | Kate Aronoff

Posted on 03/23/2024 11:10:00 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: In_Iowa_not_from

That car looks similar to the late-1940’s hybrid 2-dr sedan my son-in-law parked in my driveway for several years. I called it a hybrid because it was chopped and lowered, and had body parts from several makes of cars. He parked it here in California until he was able to transport it to Iowa where he and my daughter moved. Roof chopped so the windows were short, and the body lowered below the frame, so close to the ground. Awesome to drive, during the times I needed to move it around. Iowa doesn’t have the stupid EPA rules like California, that limit you.


21 posted on 03/23/2024 12:20:31 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: MeganC

I noticed that. I had a Ford Expedition and it has a similar shape to a 1931 Ford Model A 4 door.


22 posted on 03/23/2024 12:24:35 PM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: Tell It Right

UAW labor makes Big Three sedans prohibitively expensive. The end result is that nobody wants a Big Three sedan for two reasons: (1) Japanese and Korean manufacturers build better ones, and (2) when compared on the basis of a monthly car payment, there’s no reason to buy a crappy sedan if you can get a small SUV for just $20 more per month.


23 posted on 03/23/2024 12:38:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: roadcat
Iowa doesn’t have the stupid EPA rules like California, that limit you.

Sounds like your son-in-law built a custom lowrider.

Here in Iowa, they really don't care what you drive as long as its licensed and insured.
24 posted on 03/23/2024 12:47:55 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Drew68

naaa, it all started when they killed off the stationwagon, for our own good of course...


25 posted on 03/23/2024 12:58:51 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: curious7
The EPA was created through executive fiat, like a king with his scepter ordering the peasants what they MUST do. Presidential pen and phone to get around pesky people in Congress. This deep stater gave it to us:


26 posted on 03/23/2024 1:00:55 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: Alberta's Child
"UAW labor goldbricks makes Big Three sedans prohibitively expensive...."

Fixed it for you.

Two bits of legislation would put most of this right.

#1, Repeal the 1935 NLRA. Let "collective bargaining" go back to what it by rights should be: price fixing (which is contrary to the Sherman Antitrust Act).

#2, Tort reform. Loser pays. Frivolous lawsuits will come to a screeching halt.

It bears mention that the numbers of personal injury lawyers practicing in America went up six-fold (per capita) when SCOTUS ruled it was unconstitutional to prevent attorneys from advertising. After which the shysters began trolling the gutters for specious claims to mount a lawsuit on.

It's now an entire industry based on over-insured corporations who find it cheaper to buy off claimants than to contest the claim and go to trial.

And they simply pass along the costs to the consumer, you and me.

27 posted on 03/23/2024 1:11:04 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: MeganC

And they got rid of station wagons for suv’s.
Last really good station wagon was a model by Volvo. Much better aerodynamics with a station wagon versus a suburban or similar SUV.
Bring back the Vista Cruiser!!


28 posted on 03/23/2024 1:18:11 PM PDT by 9422WMR
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To: 9422WMR

Volvo still has two wagons,V60 and V90. Also a couple Audi Allroads, and a Mercedes.


29 posted on 03/23/2024 1:46:23 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Drew68

Our last three vehicles have been SUV’s, and EPA rules had nothing to do with why we bought them. In fact, two of them were bought before 2012.


30 posted on 03/23/2024 2:20:46 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: 9422WMR
What about Cadillac CTS-V Sport-Wagon

Dodge Charger HellCat Wagon

Porsche Taycan Wagon


31 posted on 03/23/2024 2:26:44 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Drew68

The Lefties at the New Repuclic (which 30-40 years ago was not so far Left) just can’t believe that automakers were simply responding to changes in what people wanted.


32 posted on 03/23/2024 2:30:26 PM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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To: Drew68

Everything the feral government touches turns to poop.


33 posted on 03/23/2024 2:38:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: Drew68
Women in particular feel safer in an SUV where they have a higher line of sight behind the wheel.

Women also find the AWD function reassuring.

Since many cars are leased first, the dealer can sell a previously leased SUV.

34 posted on 03/23/2024 2:53:38 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: 9422WMR

“Bring back the Vista Cruiser!!”

My mom’s brother has one! Metallic gold with 455 in it. He did a ton of work to it. Better suspension, all electronic ignition, 750 Holley, and more. He get 23 and 27 mpg in that beast! And it is so beautiful!


35 posted on 03/23/2024 4:37:49 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from
Sounds like your son-in-law built a custom lowrider.

Yes. My oldest daughter never showed any interest in helping work on my vintage cars, which I modified and rebuilt engines. But her boyfriend popped up with his cars, and all of a sudden she's helping him. That's life! Got married and have kids now, before the move to Iowa. He also has a 1966 Chevelle SS, and she has a nice Mustang, and they have a Jeep. Lots of space in Des Moines to work on them, without the crazy rules of California to deal with.

36 posted on 03/23/2024 5:40:26 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
There are rumors about that indicate that Indiana has similar rules and space as Iowa.

Do NOT believe them!!!

Hoosiers are hicks,
They live in the sticks,
And like little cars that make noise and drive on BRICKS!

37 posted on 03/23/2024 6:07:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
There are rumors about that indicate that Indiana has similar rules and space as Iowa.

I've never been to Indiana. But if it's anything like Kansas, Texas, Iowa, or Minnesota where I have stayed, then I suspect you are trying to keep Californians out!

38 posted on 03/23/2024 6:26:02 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

It’s pretty sad that you have to go to the Midwest to enjoy California car culture. Road salt may be bad for classic cars, but progressives are worse!


39 posted on 03/23/2024 7:05:54 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Drew68

Out here in the great
expanses of west Texas/
eastern New Mexico,
there could be as much
as 200 miles between
services. EV’s simply
won’t work for ranchers,
or those in the oilfield
industries. You’re going
to spend more time
charging your EV than
working. And things get
much worse during the
cold weather months.


40 posted on 03/23/2024 7:54:23 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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