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To: Williams

Do you even know what a communist is? I dont think you do. I dont recall advocating Marx or that the state should own the means of production.

Look dude, it’s common knowledge that America topples governments and installs dictators. Latin America, South Vietnam etc, heck even the Taliban. It even overthrew the elected Ukranian government and installed Zelenski. This isn’t debatable. Orange revolution?

I’m NOT saying the US is necessarily involved in the Moscow attack. Murky waters. But then, Nuland did make threats of assymetric warfare and special ops against Russia recently.


34 posted on 03/23/2024 10:24:26 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: libertarian66
It even overthrew the elected Ukranian government and installed Zelenski.

Minor correction: US installed Poroshenko and then Zelensky replaced Poroshenko.

39 posted on 03/23/2024 10:56:41 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: libertarian66
It even overthrew the elected Ukranian government and installed Zelenski.

Installed? Zelensky won the 2019 election against an incumbent president with 73% of the votes.

47 posted on 03/24/2024 3:03:36 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: libertarian66; tlozo; Williams; rexthecat; roving; ought-six; MalPearce; Monterrosa-24; BeauBo; ...

Are you talking about the Orange Revolution which took place in Nov. 2004? This was between Yanucovych and Yushchenko with Yanucovych saying he was ahead although that differed from various polling predictions. Much confusion, demonstrations, and revotes took place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Orange_Revolution

On Jan. 10, 2005, “ the Central Election Commission of Ukraine, in a live TV broadcast of the Commission meeting, officially announced that Viktor Yushchenko won the presidential elections. Results of the repeated second round are as follows:
number of enlisted voters: 37 657 704
number of handed-out ballots: 29 073 276
number of votes cast: 29 068 971
number of invalid ballots: 422 492
votes for Yushchenko: 15 115 712 51.99%
votes for Yanukovych: 12 848 528 44.20%
votes against both: 682 239 2.34% “

I believe Yanukovych headed of for Russia. Things were murky because among other disputes and difficulties, Yushchenco had been poisoned (perhaps with Dioxin). With treatment he recovered and took office after the final voting.

So all this was happening almost 15 years before Zelenskyy was elected.


121 posted on 03/26/2024 8:10:49 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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