[Governor Dinwiddie]

I can't believe that the western powers are so stupid and ignorant of history. That part of the world around the Ukraine has been embroiled in conflict since the dawn of history. There are never any winners.

[jimwatx]

That’s what scares me. All of those former Soviet Block countries would love for the US to slap Russia for them. Putting them in NATO is just insane. I don’t see the logic in continuing to antagonize Russia when China is the real economic threat. I mean even we have limited military resources, does potato head Biden want to fight both of then at once? They thought they could take down Russia with this war and failed but don’t want to admit it.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

[I can’t believe that the western powers are so stupid and ignorant of history. That part of the world around the Ukraine has been embroiled in conflict since the dawn of history. There are never any winners.]

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The existence of Russia as a single empire is proof not only that there are winners, but that Russia has generally won. And that is pretty much the problem. If both were comparably-sized countries like Azerbaijan and Armenia, no one would care. The issue is Russia’s size - 2/3 the land area of NATO and 4x the land area of European NATO. The fear is of a repeat of the unthinkably rapid victory by Germany in WW2.

In theory, the Western Allies pre-WW2 had 4x Germany’s economy. In WW1, France, with British help, had stalemated Germany for 4 years. The general consensus was that a German invasion of France would again result in stalemate. Then all the theories became moot as Germany overran France in 6 weeks. On paper, the West should be able to hold Russia when it advances beyond Ukraine. The reality is nobody knows. That’s why the West is supplying Ukraine.