[EnderWiggin1970]

The article mentions that Israel and Saudi Arabia are the only developed countries with a TFR over 2.1 now. That surprised me as I had the impression no such countries were left. I did a bit of digging and it appears the Israeli birthrate is driven by a large portion of the population being conservative Jews; in Saudi Arabia there is a similar core rejecting Western secular mores, augmented by the large population of guest workers from poor nations. (If current trends held unchanged one could imagine that eventually the Amish would turn things around in the US as everyone else dies off.)

[Repeal The 17th]

TFR = temporary flight restrictins

[FrankRizzo890]

Could this be a thinly veiled “You need to let 3rd world savages into your country or else we won’t help defend you if needed”?

[jjotto]

https://www.jns.org/2023-update-no-arab-demographic-time-bomb/

[who_would_fardels_bear]

The case of Israel is interesting. If the Hasidic Jews start to outnumber the secular ones, then what will be Israel's policies with regard to the rest of the Arabs?

The Hasidim don't fight in the IDF, and they even believe there shouldn't be a state of Israel.

They might vote to create a single Palestinian state and then hope and pray that the Arabs don't slaughter them all when they take control.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

It is possible that the reason we seem to be going to war with Russia, China, and the Arabs in the Middle East is really about protecting markets.

If that's the case, then it is truly sad.

The essayist suggests that smaller populations will lead to fewer wars. However, the opposite might be the case.

If all economies are based on a Ponzi Scheme, i.e. they require more and more consumers so that businesses can profit, then fewer people will result in more aggressive tactics to get a larger market share of an ever shrinking economic pie.

[PGR88]

At China’s present fertility rate, China’s birth cohort will shrink by half every generation. To offset even half that loss with immigrants from sub-Saharan Africa would make China’s population mostly African in less than three generations.

these globalist ghouls just want to ship Africans all over the globe, don't they? Even to the most unlikely and unsuitable of places.

[Dr. Franklin]

The article mentions that Israel and Saudi Arabia are the only developed countries with a TFR over 2.1 now. That surprised me as I had the impression no such countries were left. I did a bit of digging and it appears the Israeli birthrate is driven by a large portion of the population being conservative Jews; in Saudi Arabia there is a similar core rejecting Western secular mores, augmented by the large population of guest workers from poor nations. (If current trends held unchanged one could imagine that eventually the Amish would turn things around in the US as everyone else dies off.)

Being a Muslim state, marriage and families are encouraged, and men can have multiple wives if they can afford them. The Saudi royal family has long subsidized a high birth rate with social welfare programs rewarding families to have more children. The present crown prince has been trying to reduce such subsidies as unsustainable.

[Freest Republican]

Contrary to popular belief-

Data on the U.S. birth rate from the General Social Survey shows on avg 100 conservative adults will raise 208 children while 100 liberal adults will raise a mere 147 kids.

Those numbers are relatively constant for going on 20yrs.

Our TFR as conservatives should be near 2.1 and we should stop being warred on all time.

[magooey]

During the coming decades, it may become increasingly difficult to induce Americans to help defend any of the increasingly numerous countries with birth rates far too low to replace their population, even if a country in question is democratically governed.

I don't quite understand what birth rate, which can flex due to government policy, has anything to do with alliances or defense. Strategic position, technological capability, economic significance, and a host other factors should be of more importance. Think the Sudetenland in Czechia, plus their Skoda Works.