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Lawmakers want to make China pay its trillion-dollar debt to Americans
The Hill ^ | 04/19/2024 | ANDREW HALE

Posted on 04/19/2024 6:41:44 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

It’s practically an international article of faith: Countries may not default on their sovereign debt. Yet China has done just that on $1 trillion it owes to U.S. bondholders. Is there nothing we can do about it?

Finding members of Congress willing to talk tough isn’t hard. Many resolutions and joint letters over decades have called for China to honor its debt to U.S. citizens. But too many members, their election coffers lined by Wall Street and other financial and business interests heavily exposed to China, leave it at that.

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It’s practically an international article of faith: Countries may not default on their sovereign debt. Yet China has done just that on $1 trillion it owes to U.S. bondholders. Is there nothing we can do about it?

Finding members of Congress willing to talk tough isn’t hard. Many resolutions and joint letters over decades have called for China to honor its debt to U.S. citizens. But too many members, their election coffers lined by Wall Street and other financial and business interests heavily exposed to China, leave it at that.

That makes the action of Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) all the more noteworthy. He recently introduced a bill to address the People’s Republic of China’s selective default on American bondholders of Chinese sovereign debt.

The bill follows Vance’s history of bipartisan work with senators such as Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) to call out Wall Street, as well as China, for its corruption and abuse of U.S. laws.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; debt; lawmakers; pay
Good luck with that
1 posted on 04/19/2024 6:41:44 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
They owe American bondholders about $1.5 trillion. Which is about twice as much U.S. debt that China owns.

The difference being that it's not the U.S. govt that owns the China debt, it's American citizens (heirs of the investors who bought the Chinese railroad bonds a century ago).

2 posted on 04/19/2024 6:45:39 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Amazing in light of the pending reality of a 60 billion "loan" to Ukraine, given by people purporting to represent their constituents, that will never be repaid.
Meanwhile the the taxpayers are left with nothing but scorn from the same people claiming to represent them.
3 posted on 04/19/2024 6:46:35 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Don’t China and many other countries hold trillions of dollars of American debt, money that we owe them? Suppose they ask for repayment as bonds come due, rather than reinvesting in more of our bonds?

Everyone should pay their bills, but it strikes me that this subject is part of a larger piece of international bond sales by many other countries. There could be repercussions if we would try to force this issue.


4 posted on 04/19/2024 6:48:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Curiously, a year or two ago, China owned about $1 trillion in USA Treasury debt.

Cancel interest payments on their USA bonds, confiscate their principal, and call it even?


5 posted on 04/19/2024 6:56:37 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Tell It Right
Re: "China owns $1.5 trillion in USA Treasury Debt"

In 2024, that number is in the $800-$850 billion range.

They have been cutting back for two years.

Comically, they were being paid less than 1% (annually) on most of their USA debt when they decided to cut back.

Today, a 28-day USA Treasury Bill is paying 5.4% (annually)!

6 posted on 04/19/2024 7:16:31 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Finding members of Congress willing to talk tough isn’t hard.

Yeah, we know. We have a turncoat collaborationist speaker who resembles that remark.

7 posted on 04/19/2024 7:34:49 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Note that the pre-1949 KMT bonds were to be paid in gold - not some government paper fiat currency. So no wonder it is still worth to argue about repayment.

Contrast with present US Govt debt, which is all denominated in green pieces of paper. All bond-holders will definitely be paid - just fire-up the printing presses!


8 posted on 04/19/2024 7:43:06 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yet China has done just that on $1 trillion it owes to U.S. bondholders. Is there nothing we can do about it?

If China won’t pay their debt to us then we are going to have to make the rich pay their fair share and make up the difference.

It’s for the children


9 posted on 04/19/2024 7:44:34 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wouldn’t do a darn bit of good anyway since the Biden Administration spends a trillion every 100 days.


10 posted on 04/19/2024 7:50:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: PGR88

Are the CCP folks over their buying all that gold you read about so they can start paying us and others back the money they owe from when the Chicoms grabbed control from the Nationalists and chased them off shore to Formosa (Taiwan)?


11 posted on 04/19/2024 8:18:39 AM PDT by desertsolitaire
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To: PGR88

There is a US state, Alabama or Georgia maybe, can’t recall the details, that to this day is prohibited from doing business or selling bonds in the city of London. Seems they defaulted on their bonds in the 1870s or something like that. Bankers have long memories.


12 posted on 04/19/2024 8:58:22 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US; PGR88
The Alabama Claims, 1862–1872
The Alabama claims were a diplomatic dispute between the United States and Great Britain that arose out of the U.S. Civil War. The peaceful resolution of these claims seven years after the war ended set an important precedent for solving serious international disputes through arbitration, and laid the foundation for greatly improved relations between Britain and the United States.

13 posted on 04/19/2024 9:02:10 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp; Freedom4US
I think Freedom4US is referring to the Mississippi debt default, caused by the Panic of 1837

Mississippi Default of 1841

Here's a good summary of the Confederacy debt position during the Civil war

Confederate European Loans

14 posted on 04/19/2024 9:39:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: zeestephen

Exactly; give them a big dose of the law of reciprocity: what you do to us, we can do to you.


15 posted on 04/19/2024 10:46:50 AM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all antisemites)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We could start by seizing the Chinese purchased farmland so many here have been worried about.


16 posted on 04/19/2024 11:46:43 AM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart)
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