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Republicans Grilled on Ronald Reagan Leveraging Military Aid to Israel
Newsweek ^ | 05/12/2024 | Natalie Venegas

Posted on 05/13/2024 7:24:23 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Following President Joe Biden stating that he would withhold certain weapons from Israel amid the Israel-Hamas war, Republicans were confronted on Sunday over former President Ronald Reagan's similar stance to leverage military aid to Israel.

On October 7, 2023, Hamas, a Palestinian militant group, launched an attack against Israel, killing some 1,200 people and taking about 250 hostage. In the months that followed, Israel's offensive has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians in Gaza, the Associated Press reported, citing local health officials.

On Wednesday, Biden warned he would stop supplying Israel with offensive weapons like bombs and artillery shells if Israeli forces launch an invasion of Rafah, the southernmost city in Gaza where over a million civilians are sheltering.

"I made it clear that if they go into Rafah...I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafah, to deal with the cities – that deal with that problem," Biden said in an interview with CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aid; biden; fakenews; hamasjoe; impeachthetater; israel; natalievenegas; newsweak; reagan; republicans; weaknews
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Very misleading... Show your work Natalie..
1 posted on 05/13/2024 7:24:23 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Lordy....

According to Newsweak....”Israel’s offensive has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians in Gaza, the Associated Press reported, citing local health officials.” This is how propaganda works....


2 posted on 05/13/2024 7:30:42 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Now these low lives try to hide behind Reagan. Check this out: https://t.co/TVpHHAq0tj— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) May 12, 2024


3 posted on 05/13/2024 7:31:26 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Israel’s offensive has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians in Gaza, the Associated Press reported, citing local health officials.”

If “local health officials” say so, it must be true...


4 posted on 05/13/2024 7:33:00 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: conservative98
"Now these low lives try to hide behind Reagan."

Same thing Zeepers do re: Ukraine.

5 posted on 05/13/2024 7:34:44 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So, Reagan did a policy 42 years ago, and it is somehow relevant to what Biden is doing today? I doubt that they can connect these dots.


6 posted on 05/13/2024 7:35:21 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Pointing out hypocrisy is meaningless to the Left; they don't have principles, they have goals. )
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To: conservative98

Coons is lying to “justify” Biden’s betrayal of Israel. @SenTomCotton highlighted the false comparison on @FaceTheNation this morning. The entire context of what happened in the 1980s with Reagan - one of America’s most pro-Israel presidents unlike Biden - is totally different than what Biden is doing right now.

Biden is holding up crucial military assistance Israel needs immediately in its current fight of survival to destroy Hamas - right after the Iran-backed terror group engaged in the most heinous and deadliest attack on Jews since the Holocaust. Congress also just passed over $14 billion in military assistance with overwhelming bipartisan majorities to ensure Israel has the offensive and defensive weapons Israel needs right now. In contrast, Reagan temporarily held up fighter jets that were delivered over time. Reagan also did not have a disastrous Middle East policy that gifted Iran over $100 billion in sanctions relief as Biden has done, that has empowered Hamas, Hezbollah and other Iran’ backed terrorists to escalate their attacks on Israel culminating in Israel’s current 7-front war. The only arms embargo the Biden Admin has lifted in the Middle East has been for Iran (!), while Biden is imposing one on Israel and has fully embraced / is advocating for Hamas’ negotiation position - a ceasefire - that keeps Hamas in existence / power to attack Israel again and again as Hamas has promised.

Here is more insight fun @MichaelSinghDC - who concludes his @WSJopinion op-ed this week saying - “...Yet the greatest difference may lie in the nature of the U.S.-Israel relationship. In the early 1980s, it had long been described as ‘special’ but was seen as rooted in history and morality rather than truly strategic. Reagan is remembered as having been among America’s most pro-Israel presidents because he institutionalized the U.S.-Israel relationship. It was on his watch that regular military and economic aid to Israel began, that the first U.S.-Israel strategic memorandum of understanding was signed, and that the close coordination we now take for granted was set in motion....”

More here -

https://twitter.com/davidamilstein/status/1789681763846881372?t=gDarrkMXer4Dil5WAjU6Kw&s=19


7 posted on 05/13/2024 7:35:25 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That is the left’s new talking point - Biden is ‘Reaganesk’.


8 posted on 05/13/2024 7:36:57 AM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: cdcdawg

To me it simply shows the USA has been constantly involved in Israeli and Arab wars for at least the last 40 years

How’s that working out? Any end in sight?


9 posted on 05/13/2024 7:41:12 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Then ask the Democrats why FDR forced the Tokyo blockade or whether Japanese signals regarding the Pearl Harbor attack were intercepted.

I mean, if the Democrats want to get historical because it might change what is current, Republicans need to play tit for tat!!


10 posted on 05/13/2024 7:48:48 AM PDT by Racketeer
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I sure don’t rem never Reagan issuing 157 press statements undermining the IDF or defending the Arab terrorist murder gangs.


11 posted on 05/13/2024 7:48:55 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: PGR88
What was it, 1978 when Carter tried "peace" with Begin and Sadat?

1993 Clinton, Rabin, Arafat

2003 Bush (USA), Russia, EU and the UN "Roadmap to Peace"

2019 Jared Kushner "Ministerial to promote a future of 'Peace and Security' in the Middle East"

Hang on for the next one. It's surely coming.




12 posted on 05/13/2024 7:55:36 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MrRelevant

Perhaps 34,000 denizens of the Gaza Strip have died since October 7th 2023, but the vast majority died because their were either a) being used as human shields; or b) they were EXECUTED at the hands of Hamas while trying to escape from the Gaza Strip. Then of course, there is the collateral damage as a result of bad handling of munitions by the jihadist militants themselves, blowing up their own material storage depots.

Unforced errors all.


13 posted on 05/13/2024 7:59:01 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Of course it was the UUSR that Reagan railed against, but to Zeepers Russia, USSR are the same thing in their minds. Nothing could be further from the truth in reality.


14 posted on 05/13/2024 8:07:04 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

There was never a time when Reagan did not know that the enemy was Russia, that the evil empire was Russia, that the threat to Europe and to America and to the world was Russia.

Defeating the USSR was about freeing the enslaved of that evil empire and making Russia weaker.

The second Russia let up their boot for just an inch, those countries started breaking away and seeking to join us.


15 posted on 05/13/2024 8:16:31 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
According to AI:

Ronald Reagan, the 40th President of the United States, played a significant role in the Israeli-Lebanon conflict in the 1980s. During his presidency, Reagan’s administration sought to maintain a delicate balance between supporting Israel and maintaining good relations with Arab states.

In 1982, Reagan sent emissary Philip Habib to the Middle East to try to persuade Syria to withdraw its missiles from Lebanon. However, Habib’s efforts failed, and the situation escalated into a full-scale war between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in Lebanon.

In response to the escalating conflict, Reagan’s administration feared that Israel would invade Lebanon, which could lead to a broader regional conflict. To avert war, Reagan’s administration worked to broker a ceasefire and encouraged Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.

In 1983, Reagan’s administration insisted that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon, but later supported Israel’s objective of ridding the area of PLO and Syrian forces. This dual approach reflected the administration’s commitment to both Israel and the Arab states, which had been a hallmark of American policy towards the region since the 1940s.

Overall, Reagan’s actions in the Israeli-Lebanon conflict in the 1980s were characterized by a delicate balancing act between supporting Israel and maintaining good relations with Arab states.

Me:

If this is accurate, then Reagan was wrong and allowed the festering to continue, ensuring that there would always be conflict. But the difference here is that Reagan did not want another oil embargo, while Biden is only concerned about his Muslim voting block.

16 posted on 05/13/2024 8:17:02 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ansel12

No, it was that Russia was the major force in the USSR, but without the USSR Russia was not the force without the other satellite nations under its control.


17 posted on 05/13/2024 8:20:08 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: conservative98

My recollection is Reagan’s State Dept. was successful at managing to get American stooge and head of the Socialist International Shimon Peres to replace Yitchak Shamir as Israeli PM.


18 posted on 05/13/2024 8:30:01 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I thought that was what I said, except that those countries did not want to be enslaved by the Russians and were an involuntary portion of their military power and strategic geography, and wealth.

Most of those countries sought to join our side when they became able to and are now our allies against Russia, and hopefully against China if that day comes.


19 posted on 05/13/2024 8:30:19 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Reagan was an imbecile when it came to the Mideast. His Arab-stooge advisers led him to make the absolute worst decisions, particularly in Lebanon. Israel and their Christian allies were on the verge of destroying the Islamofacist PLO and nascent Hezbollah in Lebanon, and he stopped him...from a single photo that James Baker showed him of a dead Druze child the PLO murdered - claiming it was a "Palestinian" child.

An enraged Reagan called Begin at 4am and ordered him to ceasefire and withdraw or lose all funding. He then stupidly sent in unarmed U.S. Marines to Beirut as "peacekeepers." The result was 241 dead Marines, the PLO escaping intact to Tunisia, and a strengthened Hezbollah that would soon destroy all of Lebanon (and its Christians) and eventually take over the entire country.

To use Reagan's disastrous mistakes as some kind of model for Biden's new betrayals, is preposterous.

20 posted on 05/13/2024 8:40:15 AM PDT by montag813
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