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I would have to say that the only drawback is that it just doesn't contain enough insults and condemnation to be suitable for extended quotes here at FR. You should convey to the author that if he wants to be a real Calvinist, he's just got to tell more people they're ignorant and damned. That's what works best. If he needs some pointers, you can invite him here.

GW...the best humor has its base in truth! Thanks for a laugh before my 1st coffee!

Did you try my link?

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Did you try my link? If you mean the one to CBD, yes. The prices really are very good and the selection is broad. I noted they offer a complete Spurgeon collection (70 some volumes) and a complete Calvin collection, both on CDROM. I'm more tempted toward those. However, I think I might get the $30 updated CCEL.org CDROM first. The new version will be out in October. It has Calvin's commentaries and a lot of other really good material on it. The price is pretty hard to beat when you start looking at some of these pricey Christian CDROMs.

Since you mentioned the Commentaries, I thought I'd post a bit more from Calvin on that verse. I hadn't bothered before but thought that a few Calvinists and Wesleyans around here are sorely in need of understanding more fully exactly what Calvin found in Hebrews 10. I think Calvin and the Reformation scholars had it right. The Westminster Confession is very much in agreement with this.

APPENDIX K 2

Chapter 10:14. He hath perfected, etc. The word simply means to complete, to finish, to perfect; and it depends on the context what that completion or perfection means. To perfect the sanctified or the expiated, or those atoned for, was completely to free them from the imputation of sin, to make them fully clear from guilt, or in other words, fully to take away their sins, which was never done by the sacrifices of the law, verse 11. This is the point here handled. Stuart gives the real meaning by the following free translation, -- "By one offering, then, he hath fully accomplished for ever what was needed by those for whom expiation is (was) made."

The perfecting "for ever" by one offering in this verse, proves that "for ever," [Greek text omitted], in verse 12, is to be connected with the offering of one sacrifice, and not with the sitting on God's right hand; the verse may be thus rendered, --

12. "But he, having offered one sacrifice for sins for perpetuity, (or, according to Beza and Stuart, 'one perpetual sacrifice for sins,') sat down on the right hand of God, henceforth waiting until his enemies be made his footstool."

Some copies have [Greek text omitted] -- "he;" and some, [Greek text omitted] -- "this." If the latter be adopted, it ought not to be rendered "this man," but "this priest," such being the word used before. As one sacrifice is opposed to many sacrifices, so a perpetual sacrifice, that is, a sacrifice perpetually efficacious, is opposed to those sacrifices which were often made.

By comparison, Wesley's Notes say of 10:14 the following, a meager offering but still pretty orthodox:

Verse 14. He hath perfected them for ever - That is, has done all that was needful in order to their full reconciliation with God.

Calvin: home run   Wesley: bunted