Posted on 09/08/2001 10:37:19 AM PDT by robnoel
I am watching this UN racism conference with interest not for any other reason than the response by Americans who are now on the other end of the UN/World media hit list.....if memory serves me this is exactly what happened to Rhodesia and South Africa yet the voices in the US were silent ...to afraid to speak out in the event they be called racist....well we can now see the price being paid for failing to speak out ...America today in the eyes of the UN and the left-wing US media has replaced SA as the worlds worst racist country....not fun is it?
Don't get me wrong many in Rhodesia and South Africa were also to afraid to speak out and results speak for themselves....learn from it and don't repeat the same mistakes for history has a way of repeating itself!........allow me to repost a essay to prove a point and hopefully wake a few folks up
People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are of "Western Culture". Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly your "Western Culture", not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability,with freedom and justice for all.
But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.
Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was peace of the grave for our society.
The Third World is different -- different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe -- once thriving, stable Rhodesia -- is looting the very people who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.
Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm.
It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.
South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.
We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad ,Great Britan the UN (not least from the U.S.A.), with unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history.
The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school proteges. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obsfucate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."
Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a "compassionate" lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.
A television program aired in South Africa showed a town meeting in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Many who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the "compassionate" simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.
In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings -- as in Zimbabwe? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.
What will you do when the future nonwhite majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?
Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.
In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murders end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.
What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?
Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.
Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses -- like the need to overcome generations of white racism -- will be found to exonerate the guilty.
In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender.
When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friend, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.
Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.
What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.
Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weakness and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.
Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jefferson and Washington, and your Constitution or Bill of Rights. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your status.
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.
They know what to do.
Do you?
Colonialism, Slavery and atomic bombs over Japan? That's quite a legacy.
If this essay represents the aims of this website, I would my membership would be deleted immediately.
Colonialism, slavery, terrorism and War? That's quite a legacy.
If this essay represents the aims of this website, I would my membership would be deleted immediately.
Actually, we could care less.
Please, by all means, leave immediately.
If you believe the words you posted, then you are right. You shouldn't be here. There's are more American patriot "extremists" here than you can handle.
I can never tell whether Libertarians are on our side, or the side of socialism and the cultural plague affecting the world.
"Bow to the Leper Messiah!!!"
Colonialism--again, practiced by every civilization on earth that had the capacity to do so. It was the concept of liberty as invented by Western Civilization that ended colonialism, leaving those countries in far better shape than when the Europeans arrived. Unfortunatly many of the former colonies quickly reverted to tribalism and despotism when left to their own devices.
atomic bombs over Japan--Saved millions of American and Japanese lives that would have been lost in the bloodbath of an invasion. It's safe to say that millions of people alive today would not be here if not for those bombs, because their parents and grandparents would have died in the invasion.
For someone who calls themself a libertarian, you seem to have no idea of how little liberty there has been in human history, and how much less there would be today if Western Civilization had not invented it.
Circus comes to town
you play the lead clown...
I can just see the ACLU fighting for the rights of African immigrants to practice this here. As for the renaming of the streets, it's already happening in some places where there is a strong Hispanic presence, and New Orleans has torn down statues of white war veterans. Wake up folks!
There is nothing wrong with people seeking to maintain their cultural and ethnic heritage. It is tragic that that most basic aspect of Conservatism is today treated as an embarrassment by some "Conservatives," who have allowed the Leftist influence in the media and academia to condition them into seeing such conservation as somehow bigoted. Without ever actually debating the issue, they have silenced a majority of those on our side. (But see How To Identify The Bigot In The Argument and The Battle Over Patterns Of Personal Identificaion.)
William Flax
"Crippled Eagles"
The "crippled eagle" badge was designed by Robin Moore to represent the approximately 300 American volunteers who fought alongside the Rhodesians during the bush war, most of them in the RLI. Contrary to the popular conception abroad (and guerrilla propaganda), these men were not mercenaries, but signed up in the Rhodesian Army under the same conditions and at the same rate of pay as Rhodesian regulars. Moore also designed a flag with the badge in the centre. The "crippled eagle' symbolized the American Government's disapproval and abandonment of its nationals in Rhodesia. The rifle represented their contribution to the war effort, and the quill
waxhaw...what is not to love about socialism for those in the State Department? Government has been very very good to them. I was an exchange student in HS. Thought I had it good. Then I met the embassy brats. Another world. I bet it is worse today.
Very thought provoking article.
Bump
You are a very strange "libertarian," one who apparently does not want to tolerate any discussion that challenges the newspeak of the Left. Your own little sloganized blurb, tells the rest of us where your sympathies really lie. And there is nothing "Libertarian," in an attack on the Cultural heritage of the West, particularly an attack that seeks to smear by innuendo.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Free speech never, ever--not to Jefferson or Madison or Hamilton---meant "completely unfettered" or reckless speech. (The "fire in the theater" argument). Moreover, "free speech" was specifically, though not entirely, intended toward political speech. But everyone, including John Adams, knew that that came with certain rules and obligations. Do you recall the Sedition Acts?? Adams, as I recall, was a "Founder," and Hamilton supported him on it.
Now, as for Mr. Noel's essay, just as Afghanistan isn't Iraq, neither is the U.S. South Africa. There is a HUGE difference between a majority race pushing out a tiny minority (i.e., Indians) and a tiny minority trying to control a much larger racial majority (i.e., the Brits in either SA or India). Also different, the British never attempted in either India or South Africa to develop a system in which the minority became full citizens, thus having not reason to rebel. Laying aside the American Indians, with their socialist reservation system, for a moment all minorities/legal immigrants in the U.S. have been placed in a process for full citizenship.
I don't think you mean that every person who comes here to become a citizen feels like this. Still, after the application of that qualifier, the above comment leaves me with something to think about. Good point.
When I lived in Asia I had many experiences with the differences in basic philosophy. One was quite funny: My Taiwan roommate and I were coming back from downtown one afternoon and when we drove up into our building parking area we saw 3 teenage boys tearing apart 2 motor- scooters. It occured to me that these kids had possibly stolen them, but that even if they hadn't, they would most probably leave the parts and junk all over on the ground.
I advised my Asian friend to ask them who they were, where they lived etc and tell them NOT to take the scooters apart there. My philosophy was that "We" of the apartment complex should take interest and "responsibility" in who was doing what on "Our" property. However, my friend's philosophy was "he only owned" his precise apartment property and so he had no "right" to take "interest" in what the boys were doing.
My friend and I "argued" about this while we walked up to his apartment. We had to go back out again an hour later. When we got down to the parking area, the kids and one scooter were gone - but the other stripped down scooter and their garbage was on the ground and in the bushes. (Just as I had predicted.) Even more ironic was the fact that when the boys had gotten one scooter working, they had taken it for a test ride and hit a car. Whose car? My FRIEND'S CAR! His passenger door couldn't be opened and he had to pay a few hundred bucks to get it fixed.
The point of the story isn't "I told you so." The point is that although I understood that he and I would have some cultural differences, situations would come up like this - where I assumed a "we are all the same" common ground - but it wasn't so. Traditionally, the Chinese own little land - normally just their own homes, so the philosophy of "community ownership" isn't strong. But in America, we perhaps have lost some of the "extended family" stuff, but have more community ownership.
The moral is: different cultures can be different is so many unexpected ways. You are correct to say that Americans and Westerners shouldn't assume people from different countries think as we do.
You are either slipping, or you are misdirecting ( given your past performance ).
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