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Father Pavone Asked to Leave Priests for Life
Priests For Life Press Release ^
| September 10,2001
| Priests For Life
Posted on 09/10/2001 1:34:08 PM PDT by electron1
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To: AKA Elena
The News About Father for me came from Priests for Life-they broke it first,we are with you Father Pavone
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posted on
09/10/2001 6:34:39 PM PDT
by
fatima
To: proud2bRC
Thanks for expressing how man feel about this.
42
posted on
09/10/2001 6:41:11 PM PDT
by
Lady GOP
To: proud2bRC
Pardon...meant to say "many".
43
posted on
09/10/2001 6:42:30 PM PDT
by
Lady GOP
To: sinkspur
"Also maybe because Father Pavone seemed to be supporting Schunlder in NJ, it had a bearing."
I'd be very surprised if someone as diplomatic as Pavone would endorse a particular candidate, by name.
This can affect non-profit status, you know.
But, if you follow the example Cardinal O'Connor set, there was no question about the "Monment of Conception to Moment of Natural Death" question. There is only one choice in our (NJ's) Gubernatorial race that can be supported by Catholics. That would be Bret Schundler.
He was clear and concise on that matter in all of his preaching . . . IMO I don't think he would have ever removed such a staunch Pro-Life advocate from this cause.
I hate to say it, but perhaps Egan isn't the best successor to O'Connor? He has been noticably silent since becoming Archbishop - and in NYC silence isn't golden.
Perhaps that is why JPII is sending Myers to Newark?
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posted on
09/10/2001 6:43:30 PM PDT
by
Exit 109
To: firebrand
Tearful ping. :-(
45
posted on
09/10/2001 6:44:15 PM PDT
by
Exit 109
To: Lady GOP
Will do-Father is a personal friend and obedient .
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posted on
09/10/2001 6:44:59 PM PDT
by
fatima
To: fatima
That is exactly how I received it -- the fact that Fr. Frank Pavone was given the original mission by His Holiness -- makes me question the change as well. I was only trying to present scenarios ... no more.
To: AKA Elena
scuse me -- not His Holiness -- CARDINAL O'CONNOR -- our last great AMERICAN voice!
To: electron1
All those catholic-demoCCCPrats must be upset.
To: AKA Elena
Me thinks-lawsuits-lawsuits-lawsuits-be in the media be open to lawsuits---he does have courage and I have worked with the other Priests for Life-they all are wonderful.Father is on a pontifical counsel in Rome,all will continue,all is OK
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:00:15 PM PDT
by
fatima
To: fatima
"For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my
mother's womb. I praise you
because I am fearfully and
wonderfully made; your works are
wonderful, I know that full well.
Psalm 139:13-16PRIESTS FOR LIFE
To: GreenDestiny
Holy Mary Mother of God,Pray for us sinners.
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:06:15 PM PDT
by
fatima
To: Exit 109
I hate to say it, but perhaps Egan isn't the best successor to O'Connor? He has been noticably silent since becoming Archbishop - and in NYC silence isn't golden. Egan's an administrator. That was his reputation in his previous diocese. To expect him to be more "out front" now would be expecting too much.
O'Connor apparently let the NY archdiocese get deeply in debt; Egan's been closing parishes.
I've seen both kinds of bishops. It's often the administrator who has to come in and clean up behind the charismatic exemplar.
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:08:32 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: proud2bRC
Fr Pavone was too effective at what he was doing, making the NCCB look bad in contrast, i.e., look how much ONE SINGLE faithful priest is accomplishing while the entire US hierarchy does NOTHING effective whatsoever, principally because it is a group whose moral weight has been gutted by the group's rampant tolerance of/promotion of homosexuality (see their fatally flawed document Always Our children for proof), and institutionalized dissent from Humanae Vitae. You know better than this. No group of American Churchmen have been more pro-life than the American bishops.
"Promotion of homosexuality?" Preposterous.
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:11:16 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: sinkspur
Egan's not the problem, he is staunchly pro life. You're right, the problem is a lack of priests. Up here in Northeast Ct the parish priest has become a traveling show. They say mass at 4 or 5 different parishes.
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:16:51 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: sinkspur
St John Neuman was charismatic exemplar I think-what does that mean sinkspur.I want to be this ,spend money for God and send in the cleanup man,woman.
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posted on
09/10/2001 7:17:50 PM PDT
by
fatima
To: Exit 109
It possibly could have something to do with Father Pavone's condoning of civil disobedience. Didn't this come up on FR a few months ago?
But on another score, Egan has removed the priest at St. Agnes who conducting traditional services there and brought him to St. Patrick's. Meanwhile, the priest whose job this man took at St. Patrick's has gone to take over St. Agnes. (Something the management books tell you not to do!) He knew nothing of celebrating traditional mass and apparently was not informed about it by anyone, so I believe he removed the big crucifix from the front of the altar area and tried to distribute communion in front of the altar rail, which had people kneeling down on the floor---they didn't know what to do.
At first the bringing of the traditionalist priest to the cathedral seemed like a good sign, and I think I have noticed a tad more Latin at St. Patrick's, but put it together with the Pavone business and what does it mean? It seems that priests who stand out from the mainstream and have a strong following are being placed elsewhere. Just a thought.
To: Artist
I don't know much Cardinal Egan, but there is no reason to assume he's attacking Pavone or the pro-life movement by this action. By his vocation as a diocesan priest, Pavone's first devotion must be to serving his diocese. In time he may convince his bishop that his service in Priests for Life is more valuable than his service as a parish pastor. But please don't forget the importance of the latter. The Catholic Church is starved for pastors of Pavone's quality.
To: proud2bRC
The pro-life movement is in God's hands, not Fr. Pavone's. If God intends Fr. Pavone to continue his work, this setback will be temporary.
Please don't equate becoming a pastor with some sort of punishment. Perhaps your diocese has a plethora of excellent pastors, but mine is starved for them. The parishes are the roots of the Church. Pavone will hardly be wasting his time by tending to them.
To: Snuffington
But how many parishes have hosted Father Pavone and gained?
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