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HARRY BROWNE: "When will we learn?"
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | September 12, 2001 | Harry Browne

Posted on 09/12/2001 12:31:51 AM PDT by ouroboros

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To: DAnconia55
This does not excuse the attacks today - but if you want avoid repeats, for real... stop meddling in the affairs of other nations.

What nations are you referring to?

If the answer to that question is "Afghanistan," here's a follow-up: Who was more than happy to receive weapons and training from American entities when the Soviet Union was invading their country?

41 posted on 09/12/2001 2:02:51 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: ouroboros
What should be done?

First of all, stop the hysteria. Stand back and ask how this could have happened. Ask how a prosperous country isolated by two oceans could have so embroiled itself in other people's business that someone would want to do us harm. Even sitting in the middle of Europe, Switzerland isn't beset by terrorist attacks, because the Swiss mind their own business.

That has a lot to do with the fact the "business" of the Swiss is laundering the world's rogues' dirty money.

Second, resolve that we won't let our leaders use this occasion to commit their own terrorist acts upon more innocent people, foreign and domestic, that will inspire more terrorist attacks in the future.

What particular terrorist attack by our leaders is Harry suggesting brought this one about? Does he know? Does he care to elaborate?

Harry...are you saying the US should "learn a lesson" from the terrorists that did this? That if the US lets Bin Laden or whoever slip away without retribution, he will call a moratorium on American targets?

Third, find a way, with enforceable constitutional limits, to prevent our leaders from ever again provoking this kind of anger against America.

Harry, Harry, Harry...what is it America can do to prevent "provoking anger" in people willing to fly planes into buildings?

Hey, Harry...what did the US do to the Japanese to "provoke their anger?"

One more over here, Harry...in your America, would you just count on other nations not wanting to conquer the world's richest, most influential, and most envied nation?

42 posted on 09/12/2001 2:24:11 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: ouroboros
Bump for Harry!
43 posted on 09/12/2001 2:29:38 AM PDT by Justis
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To: ouroboros
Even though my political ideas are all libertarian, I decided years ago I would never again support Harry Browne.

Lurking around in his post is a valid point though; Clinton bombed Kosovo and killed more civilians than the Serbs ever did. And we let Clinton get off scott free. Actions like that do cause resentment, and make terroism inevitable. It does NOT excuse the terrorists, though.
44 posted on 09/12/2001 2:39:01 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: L.N. Smithee
I voted for Harry. Gawd....I was initially in the
Green Party, before I realized that their first name
"Red Party" didn't go over very well. Green, like money...Hey..that'll sell.
I was "Natural Law" for awhile too.
And "Reform"
I'm just disenfranchised.
We're a world economy with huge energy needs to fuel our
huge economy. How the *hell* are we supposed to keep to ourselves!?!
If I have a ranch and the M*F* next door wont take care of his
Hoof and Mounth problem and I've got NO ONE else to turn to
, guess what? I'm gonna solve it.

Those people are seriously memetically compromised.
Time for some serious disinfectant.
But I could be wrong.

45 posted on 09/12/2001 2:41:22 AM PDT by nanomid
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To: ouroboros
Harrys exactly right! No sane person can deny that this country's foreign policy is the cause for the bombings. If I were an Iraqi, Serb, Somali, Columbian, etc., I'd be dancing in the streets right now. We've got to get back to our libertarian forefather's principles of "foreign alliances with none - commerce with all" philosophy NOW!

Lets get to work on getting out of all our overseas meddling first thing (after we exterminate every scumbag arab that even KNEW somebody that had something to do with these attacks on our soil, of course!)

46 posted on 09/12/2001 3:17:36 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: ouroboros
GeeWiz Harry... Golly gee, maybe if we just ignore these kind and well-meaning terrorists uh misguided souls, they will go away peacefully......./sarcasm
47 posted on 09/12/2001 3:28:46 AM PDT by cbkaty
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To: Cultural Jihad
>> Time to run Harry Browne out of town on the rails, all tarred and feathered in the traditional way we treat scoundrels, swindlers, smugglers, and sops. <<

Yeah, great idea. Sounds like you'd be more at home with someone like bin Laden. Any other freedoms you'd like to give up along with speech in the wake of this horrific attack?

48 posted on 09/12/2001 3:33:49 AM PDT by jaime1959
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To: Cultural Jihad
Seems we taught the Japanese a lesson or two in the 1940's, and we don't see Harry Browne complaining about the kamikaze pilots last year over Seattle.

Time to run Harry Browne out of town on the rails, all tarred and feathered in the traditional way we treat scoundrels, swindlers, smugglers, and sops. I can only conclude that Browne's piece really rang true to you on a very deep level. If not, why the animus?

We have had this coming for a very long time. Did America really think that we could bomb a few civilians in the middle east and end terrorism? Our campaign against Japan was effective because WE made Japan realize that we would completely and utterly destroy them.

By bombing an occasional site at a time over a long period of time we have managed to create a new generation of people who regard Americans as cowards! We wreak havok and destruction on a very small scale without ever getting our hands dirty. Don't you see how that would make us appear?

50 posted on 09/12/2001 3:40:09 AM PDT by jess35
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To: truth_seeker
Hey, now that's openin' up a big can of ad homenum and showin' 'em who's boss!

"I'd say he's a notch below Clinton today. At least Clinton, Daschle, Gephart are able to call for us to properly return fire."

And let me guess, some of Clinton's pals are all lined up to sell us the bullets? We in the US are suckers, and we'll be fleeced bigtime over all this!

51 posted on 09/12/2001 3:43:47 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: A Navy Vet
But we could use more real men on these flights

My thoughts exactly. The emasculation of American mail civilians is obvious and continues to this day in our government schools.

Any notion of the Libertarian Party ever occupying a prominent spot in American politics died along with thousands of innocents and freedom yesterday.

The implications of this attack cuts to the core of our belief in freedom...and still we stare into our peep holes from paradise...will the government embrace our hatred and anger, enjoin us, or simply continue to coddle us, and paternalistically assure us all is well.

I don't want to be "reassured" by Bush or any other government servant...I want to know where the nearest recruiting station is so I can join the hunt for these bastards...

52 posted on 09/12/2001 3:51:37 AM PDT by oneway
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To: ouroboros
The World Trade Towers bombing will serve one useful purpose. It will expose the Libertarians for what they are. If this attack does not constitute a reason to use force, then, to a Libertarian, nothing will. Will the Libertarian Party stand up and say: "enough is enough" to those who would attack the innoncent? If they do not then they will have shown that they rhetoric about justifiable self-defense is just that, recycled, rehashed, better red than dead, rhetoric. Yes, that is exactly what this reminds me of, the "better red than dead" cowards who spent the fifties and sixites licking the boots of the communists hoping that they would be spared when the communists took over.

Mr. Browne's article is crap. If you truely believe in Libertarian values, you can not justify terrorist acts on any basis. Nor do you use this time to advance your political agenda. And, you Sir, Mr. Ourobors, should be ashamed to have even thought of posting an article that blames the victims rather than the perpertrators.

53 posted on 09/12/2001 4:01:55 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: oneway
"I want to know where the nearest recruiting station is so I can join the hunt for these bastards..."

Just look in the front of your phone book under Federal Govn't. Godspeed to you, son.

54 posted on 09/12/2001 4:05:36 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Cultural Jihad
"And I'd give commercial air travel about two weeks before all the planes are shot up by drunkards, dopers, and anarchists who would kill upon being told to fasten their seat belts and put up their food trays. "

The anti-gunners said the same thing about concealed weapons permits, and nothing like it has even remotely happened! Get real!

55 posted on 09/12/2001 4:40:49 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: ouroboros
COWARDS HIDE BEHIND A HAND WRINGING, DO NOTHING, POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW!
56 posted on 09/12/2001 4:46:31 AM PDT by truth_eagle
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To: L.N. Smithee
Hey, Harry...what did the US do to the Japanese to "provoke their anger?"

Cut off their oil.

It is now proven that Cordell Hull and Franklin Roosevelt deliberately provoked the Japanese into the war. There is also strong indication that they knew about the attack in advance.

I'm not exactly with Mr. Browne here, but if we're too dumb to close our public schools and develop a body politic with sufficient brains to keep tabs on the corporate thugs raiding the planet behind the skirts of our military we do deserve what we get.

58 posted on 09/12/2001 5:10:12 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: nanomid
Nuclear. The only reason that there is a "waste storage problem" is that it was manufactured. When Greenpeace talked Carter (an engineer trained in nuclear submarines, BTW) into writing an EO banning nuclear fuel reprocessing we were on the road to enriching the klepto-fascist oil companies behind the environmental movement. Yup, that ineffectual boob was just about as bad a traitor as Bubba was. He just made it look natural.

This is all about energy. Why don't we just admit it? Who profits by that oil-dependency? As far as I am concerned, the conversion of our economy from a progression toward nuclear back to oil sealed its fate.

60 posted on 09/12/2001 5:17:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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