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1 posted on 09/12/2001 12:31:51 AM PDT by ouroboros
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But as misguided and despicable as they were, they were anything but cowardly.

Denials, and refusing to take credit for the attacks IS cowardly.

2 posted on 09/12/2001 12:38:00 AM PDT by onyx
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Seems we taught the Japanese a lesson or two in the 1940's, and we don't see Harry Browne complaining about the kamikaze pilots last year over Seattle.

Time to run Harry Browne out of town on the rails, all tarred and feathered in the traditional way we treat scoundrels, swindlers, smugglers, and sops.

3 posted on 09/12/2001 12:40:51 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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There are those who will say this article is unpatriotic and un-American

Yes, there are.

4 posted on 09/12/2001 12:43:09 AM PDT by xm177e2
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No wonder why this guy got all the votes he did!!!, An isolationist moron
5 posted on 09/12/2001 12:47:02 AM PDT by MJY1288
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Browne's arguments used to have some weight, not any more. Events have disproven his thesis, and left his ideology behind. He might as well join Ramsey Clark's "Blame America First and Always' crowd. It just won't work any more, sorry.
7 posted on 09/12/2001 12:48:02 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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President Bush has authorized continued bombing of innocent people in Iraq.

INNOCENT? Far from it, the butchery in Iraq's invasion of its neighbors was shocking! From that point on we have bombed anti-aircraft installations that were placed to defy the agreements that Iraq signed to stop the war. It is called military targets, or in this liberals vocabulary, targeted assassinations. WHERE IS THE BARF ALERT?


8 posted on 09/12/2001 12:48:30 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: ouroboros
Shut the hell up!
11 posted on 09/12/2001 12:52:56 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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You've got real nerve posting this loser's bullshit now.

The sanctimonious grave-dancing of you "principled" jerks is mind-numbing. Is there any tragedy that can keep you from beating your chests and clucking?

12 posted on 09/12/2001 12:53:30 AM PDT by Deb
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Third, find a way, with enforceable constitutional limits, to prevent our leaders from ever again provoking this kind of anger against America.

Seems now to be Browne is simply a soulmate of the late Neville Chamberlain. I've heard this policy analysis, from all the cowards. Say, Harry: Which unit did you serve in? Ever risked your own hide?

I'd say he's a notch below Clinton today. At least Clinton, Daschle, Gephart are able to call for us to properly return fire. Harry doesn't fire; he just quakes in his foxhole, decrying the wars of the ages, which inevitably occur in the REAL WORLD. A world Harry knows nothing about.

18 posted on 09/12/2001 1:02:44 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Browne is a fool, and a simple minded one too.Spare us all from the naivety of a righteous libertarian, the type that possess perfect 20/20 hindsight.
22 posted on 09/12/2001 1:06:48 AM PDT by habs4ever
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In times of war we find out who the traitors and who the patriots are. Browne is a traitor.
27 posted on 09/12/2001 1:33:00 AM PDT by #3Fan
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PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman


Worldwide Caution

September 7, 2001

Over the last several months, the U.S. Government has learned that U.S. citizens and interests abroad may be at increased risk of a terrorist action from extremist groups. In addition, we have received unconfirmed information that terrorist actions may be taken against U.S. military facilities and/or establishments frequented by U.S. military personnel in Korea and Japan. We are also concerned about information we received in May 2001 that American citizens may be the target of a terrorist threat from extremist groups with links to Usama Bin Ladin's Al-Qaida organization. In the past, such individuals have not distinguished between official and civilian targets. As always, we take this information seriously. U.S. Government facilities worldwide remain at a heightened state of alert.

U.S. citizens are urged to maintain a high level of vigilance and to take appropriate steps to increase their security awareness to reduce their vulnerability. Americans should maintain a low profile, vary routes and times for all required travel, and treat mail and packages from unfamiliar sources with suspicion. In addition, American citizens are also urged to avoid contact with any suspicious, unfamiliar objects, and to report the presence of the objects to local authorities. Vehicles should not be left unattended, if at all possible, and should be kept locked at all times. U.S. Government personnel overseas have been advised to take the same precautions. In addition, U.S. Government facilities have and will continue to temporarily close or suspend public services as necessary to review their security posture and ensure its adequacy.

U.S. citizens planning to travel abroad should consult the Department of State's Public Announcements, Travel Warnings, Consular Information Sheets, and regional travel brochures, all of which are available at the Consular Affairs Internet web site at http://travel.state.gov. We will continue to provide updated information should it become available. American citizens overseas may contact the American Citizens Services unit of the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate by telephone or fax for up-to-date information on security conditions. In addition, American citizens in need of emergency assistance should telephone the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate before visiting the Embassy or Consulate.

Department of State travel information and publications are available at Internet address: http://travel.state.gov. U.S. travelers may hear recorded information by calling the Department of State in Washington, D.C. at 202-647-5225 from their touch-tone telephone, or receive information by automated telefax by dialing 202-647-3000 from their fax machine.

This Public Announcement supersedes the Public Announcement - Worldwide Caution of June 22, 2001 to inform U.S. citizens of unconfirmed threats against U.S. military facilities, personnel and establishments frequented by U.S. military personnel. This Public Announcement expires on December 22, 2001.

36 posted on 09/12/2001 1:52:23 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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I'll agree with Mr. Brown on this one...our attacks, coming seemingly at random, as it were, just provide grist for the Arab propaganda mills.
37 posted on 09/12/2001 1:53:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Harry Browne for Secretary of state!
40 posted on 09/12/2001 2:00:09 AM PDT by St.Chuck
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What should be done?

First of all, stop the hysteria. Stand back and ask how this could have happened. Ask how a prosperous country isolated by two oceans could have so embroiled itself in other people's business that someone would want to do us harm. Even sitting in the middle of Europe, Switzerland isn't beset by terrorist attacks, because the Swiss mind their own business.

That has a lot to do with the fact the "business" of the Swiss is laundering the world's rogues' dirty money.

Second, resolve that we won't let our leaders use this occasion to commit their own terrorist acts upon more innocent people, foreign and domestic, that will inspire more terrorist attacks in the future.

What particular terrorist attack by our leaders is Harry suggesting brought this one about? Does he know? Does he care to elaborate?

Harry...are you saying the US should "learn a lesson" from the terrorists that did this? That if the US lets Bin Laden or whoever slip away without retribution, he will call a moratorium on American targets?

Third, find a way, with enforceable constitutional limits, to prevent our leaders from ever again provoking this kind of anger against America.

Harry, Harry, Harry...what is it America can do to prevent "provoking anger" in people willing to fly planes into buildings?

Hey, Harry...what did the US do to the Japanese to "provoke their anger?"

One more over here, Harry...in your America, would you just count on other nations not wanting to conquer the world's richest, most influential, and most envied nation?

42 posted on 09/12/2001 2:24:11 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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Bump for Harry!
43 posted on 09/12/2001 2:29:38 AM PDT by Justis
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Even though my political ideas are all libertarian, I decided years ago I would never again support Harry Browne.

Lurking around in his post is a valid point though; Clinton bombed Kosovo and killed more civilians than the Serbs ever did. And we let Clinton get off scott free. Actions like that do cause resentment, and make terroism inevitable. It does NOT excuse the terrorists, though.
44 posted on 09/12/2001 2:39:01 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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Harrys exactly right! No sane person can deny that this country's foreign policy is the cause for the bombings. If I were an Iraqi, Serb, Somali, Columbian, etc., I'd be dancing in the streets right now. We've got to get back to our libertarian forefather's principles of "foreign alliances with none - commerce with all" philosophy NOW!

Lets get to work on getting out of all our overseas meddling first thing (after we exterminate every scumbag arab that even KNEW somebody that had something to do with these attacks on our soil, of course!)

46 posted on 09/12/2001 3:17:36 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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GeeWiz Harry... Golly gee, maybe if we just ignore these kind and well-meaning terrorists uh misguided souls, they will go away peacefully......./sarcasm
47 posted on 09/12/2001 3:28:46 AM PDT by cbkaty
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The World Trade Towers bombing will serve one useful purpose. It will expose the Libertarians for what they are. If this attack does not constitute a reason to use force, then, to a Libertarian, nothing will. Will the Libertarian Party stand up and say: "enough is enough" to those who would attack the innoncent? If they do not then they will have shown that they rhetoric about justifiable self-defense is just that, recycled, rehashed, better red than dead, rhetoric. Yes, that is exactly what this reminds me of, the "better red than dead" cowards who spent the fifties and sixites licking the boots of the communists hoping that they would be spared when the communists took over.

Mr. Browne's article is crap. If you truely believe in Libertarian values, you can not justify terrorist acts on any basis. Nor do you use this time to advance your political agenda. And, you Sir, Mr. Ourobors, should be ashamed to have even thought of posting an article that blames the victims rather than the perpertrators.

53 posted on 09/12/2001 4:01:55 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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