posted on 09/14/2001 6:07:26 PM PDT
Gosh, for not saying, "I told you so", there sure was a lot of "I told you so". Shut up, Pat.
Oh,not too bad.Certainly no worse that some statements I've seen and a lot better than most.
posted on 09/14/2001 6:15:23 PM PDT
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posted on 09/16/2001 2:05:05 AM PDT
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...we say that anti-imperialism and pacifism bear no relation...We must therefore respond -- not in wanton revenge, but with precise determination...a proportionate response based on reliable information is well within the scope of justice.
Contrary to the views of some of our more bellicose FRiends here, it is indeed possible to be bitterly critical of US foreign policy and at the same time demand justice be done for this wanton attack on innocent American civilians. The call for a re-examination of US involvement overseas and the requirement that the US response to this week's attacks not be hasty or indiscriminate (i.e., that it be focused on the guilty parties) both stem from the same desire: to prevent thousands more Americans from becoming victims of future terrorism.
"Those who say "We are at war with all fundamentalist Islamic entities waging war against the United States" risk rewarding the terrorists by igniting a massive conflict in the Middle East. We cannot declare war on an amorphous enemy or embark on aspirin factory crusades. But in this case, a proportionate response based on reliable information is well within the scope of justice. "
Pat again sets forth the best direction for America's future interests at this time in history. Wars require an exit strategy. Is it in America's interest to push for a 'final solution' that calls for the unconditional surrender and disarnament of all Arab states followed by the killing of all males under two?
US budget policy is aimed at 'one war at a time'. How much will we expend in cost and people for what indefinite future? If the President and Congress decides we are the World's Army of One, then we need to triple the military budget, start the draft and prepare for a three front conflict. Russia is still in the wings and China is poised to pick up the pieces. The direction the country should move is to protect America and its Constitution for this Century. Let's find the culprit and not bleed ourselves to death.
posted on 09/16/2001 9:52:55 AM PDT
I love Buchanan and would struggle very hard to find something he writes I disagree with. I thought this was a bit of a soft-pedal, but I suppose the hardcore among us can get our fixes on LewRockwell, who has risen to this occasion with remarkable results.
Buchanan is cursed -- like many of us -- by a desire to be liked. It is the main reason why many hate him: becuase he is so easy to like, he is a gentle, loving man with a terrific sense of humor. I might argue, however, that the horror of this carnage suggests the need for a serious review of our foreign policy over the past ten years in the short term, before more damage can be done.
posted on 09/16/2001 9:59:04 AM PDT
We have said before and remain convinced that rampant interventionism is the spawning pool of international terror, and that our global adventuring has fomented resentment around the world. But this is no time for "I told you so" games. When our nation comes under attack, compounding the assault with self-criticism is callous in the extreme. Once the full freight of this tragedy settles, we can unpack probable causes and potential culprits, and we may well find our own hubris at fault. But now is not the time.
BUMP! Exactly what I was trying to express on another thread!
posted on 09/16/2001 10:03:29 AM PDT
Good thread. To me it seems the critical thing is to understand that no one is justified by evil. We must and will find and punish Tuesday's criminals -- not sparing their hosts -- who attacked not only us but the entire civilized world. But neither our righteous anger nor our God-given right of self-defense cancels our country's responsibility for its own blunders and bad faith in nation-building and foreign adventurism. Once we have dealt decisively with our enemies, I pray we'll have the grace and humility to look into our hearts and find repentence for our own misdeeds.
posted on 09/16/2001 1:33:37 PM PDT
Pat Buchanan's The American Cause: "A Season for Sadness"
Thoughtful, I thought...
posted on 09/16/2001 1:41:27 PM PDT
I am waiting a week before I start stating some of my most strident comments on the WTC and Pentagon bombings.
There's enough blame for this event to go around five or six times through numerous federal government entities and agencies.
Out of respect to the families of the fallen, I have held my tongue. In a few days I will stop doing so.
Buchanan could have said a hell of a lot more, when it comes to the subject of I told you so. He didn't. Some of the less attentive should have noticed!
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