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CAPITALISM AT ITS FINEST... A Modest Proposal for Citizen's War
$1 Billion Terrorist Bounty Fund to be Set Up by L.A. Telecom Executives ^
| September 14, 2001
| Uriel
Posted on 09/14/2001 11:15:24 PM PDT by Uriel1975
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To: kd5cts
Big difference between financing and bounties. I finance the squads. (Already have names in mind). Congress pays the bounty for the scrum we bring back. Got it. Congress does not put the captital out to finance it, I do. Risk I take. My guys don't do well, I eat the cost. My guys do well, Congress pays off. I can live with that. Not much different than owning a race-horse. Just cheaper.You have the idea. As a hypothetical, the Cells responsible for the Skyjackings were 5 man cells... figure 4 operatives ($250k) and one cell leader ($1 million), that's $2 million dollars paid to the contractor upon delivery or proved termination... and another major US building safe from that cell.
Congress really ought to consider this, IMHO.
To: Uriel1975
Seriously, I think that congress should consider this option for asymetrical warfare against isolated, hidden cells (though I don't have the language/cultural skills to pull it off myself, I'm sure we have plenty of ex-military who'd be willing to try). EXACTLY CORRECT. This is the sort of inventiveness that that cannot expect. Everyone on EARTH will be hunting him....
And it is a perfect chess move in response to terrorism...
To: Uriel1975
the idea is to get you a buck for your bang.Re-read my #9. That's what I said. I would expect to make money. Good money. And uphold the flag. The $5k I was talking about was begin-to-put-it-together money. To field something like this, you would need several million. Intel would be the largest cost. Transport and outfitting is pretty cheap, probably less than $3M. Intel, on the other hand, would cost quite a bit.
/john
To: Uriel1975
You are seriously on to something here.
It's outside the box, and disarms the hell out of them.
We could post standing bounties for ANYONE who has ever committed a terrorist act against the US.
To: DAnconia55
Ha... start paying lesser sums for foot soldiers, and the Israeli citizens would clean out the desert all the way to Egypt :)
To: Uriel1975
I don't have the language/cultural skills to pull it off myself,Hire them. Just the best ones. Second best is Most expensive.
/john
To: Uriel1975
Yahooooo! I've been pointing this out to my congressman for years. He was so proud of a reward program and suggested that was pitiful, that he should read the Constitution and use the Letters of Marque and Reprisal power given to Congress. They do so much that is unconstitutional, why don't they do some that is constitutional. It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper and more interesting. Small groups are going to come up with a lot more interesting solutions than the bureaucratic Pentagon, which can be seen coming from a thousand miles away. This is also the way to split the supporters off from the leadership. Some guy says to himself, gee, maybe I can pick up a couple of million dollars pretty quick and get out of Dodge. This would be very effective and would create fewer objections from allies, semi-allies and enemies.
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09/15/2001 12:10:23 AM PDT
by
Kermit
To: DAnconia55
Beautiful. I agree almost entirely. How about we either greatly extend that list of nations (Australia, Germany, France...etc)Select Aussie and German teams should be fairly considered for inclusion, if their creds check out.
They're all good by me if they want in.
France gets jack squat. They're undercutting us at every opportunity.
Matter of fact, if any of our teams get caught, we blame France. Just on general principle.
... Or remove that requirement. I'd be willing to pay an Afghan 100,000,000 out of the treasury for Ossama's head. What about you?
On condition that they are their associates enter our FBI witness protection program upon delivery or proved termination, yes. We do not want to pay some of Bin Laden's terrorist rivals $100 million that will come back to haunt us. If an Afghan delivers, he stays in the US -- rich, comfortable, and under supervision.
To: Uriel1975,Squantos
Just print this in Arabic and Afgan and drop leaflets. For a million U.S. lots of these guys would kill their moms.
To: DAnconia55
You are seriously on to something here. It's outside the box, and disarms the hell out of them. We could post standing bounties for ANYONE who has ever committed a terrorist act against the US. Bingo.
I told ya I was thinking.
To: Uriel1975
A congressman needs this thread.
Naturally, I suggest Ron Paul.
To: DAnconia55
And perhaps Dick Armey.
A Texan is bound to appreciate this....
To: DAnconia55
It's outside the boxOnly to anyone that is absolutely clueless about history. It has been done. Thomas Jefferson convinced Congress to do it once before. About 200 years ago.
/john
To: Uriel1975
How do you verify that 1) people were taken out and 2) that the right people were taken out and 3) that good innocent people aren't taken out?
To: kd5cts
Re-read my #9. That's what I said. I would expect to make money. Good money. And uphold the flag. The $5k I was talking about was begin-to-put-it-together money. To field something like this, you would need several million. Intel would be the largest cost. Transport and outfitting is pretty cheap, probably less than $3M. Intel, on the other hand, would cost quite a bit.Clause 5 proposes that "the Department of Defense provide registered contractors with such armaments, equipment, logistical support, and intelligence as the contractors shall reasonably require; and may provide such discrete transportation and assistance in the prosecution of these contracts as the Department of Defense shall deem appropriate", obviously within the limit of their capabilities (after a team is moved into its chosen staging position... Jordan, Kuwait, Pakistan, etc., they're on their own, in-and-out) That's if you are willing to use US Government product. Anything more exotic or independent would be the contractor's investment.
To: Uriel1975
Yes, private capital would back efforts to claim publicly financed Bounties.
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09/15/2001 12:20:08 AM PDT
by
meta
To: Uriel1975
Matter of fact, if any of our teams get caught, we blame France. Just on general principle.On this, we agree. But, the French, they would just surrender. I f@*t in thier general direction.
Do a search for the previous Letters of Marque and Reprisal, base yours on precedent. I think you have a great idea going.
/john
To: monkeyshine
How do you verify ...Scalps work well.
/john
To: monkeyshine
How do you verify that 1) people were taken out and 2) that the right people were taken outThe contractors bring in their physical heads, whether or not attached to their bodies. (just one idea, others suggest themselves)
and 3) that good innocent people aren't taken out?
Market forces. The contractors want to get paid, which means they want to hit the right target.
Imperfect? So is our criminal justice system. We execute innocent people every year, but we still (rightly) continue to prosecute murder. And while imperfect, it is likely to be a heck of a lot more selective than a B-52 strike.
To: meta
Fine by me.
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