"It sounds harsh - this had never happened in the world, so you can hardly criticise them. But I would have given the order to get out. You would have thought someone with technical expertise would have been advising them." But he acknowledged that the sheer scale of the tragedy probably overwhelmed the operation commanders. "I think everyone was not thinking. It was like a horror film and I think people's rationale had gone," he said.
The building's design was standard in the 1960s, when construction began on what was then the world's tallest building. At the heart of the structure was a vertical steel and concrete core, housing lift shafts and stairwells. Steel beams radiate outwards and connect with steel uprights, forming the building's outer wall. All the steel was covered in concrete to guarantee firefighters a minimum period of one or two hours in which they could operate - although aviation fuel would have driven the fire to higher-than-normal temperatures. The floors were also concrete. The building had to be tough enough to withstand not just the impact of a plane - and the previous bomb attack in 1993 - but also of the enormous structural pressures created by strong winds.
Newer skyscrapers are constructed using cheaper methods. But this building was magnificent, say experts, in the face of utterly unpredictable disaster.
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Trade Center architect discusses buildings Taken from CNN http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/wtc.architect.cnna/index.html
(CNN) -- When they were completed in the early 1970s, the Twin Towers of New York's World Trade Center were the tallest buildings in the world. That designation didn't last long -- Chicago's Sears Tower took the title in 1974, a year after Two World Trade Center was finished -- but the buildings' standing as a New York City landmark, anchors amid the office-tower canyons of Manhattan's financial district, remained unchallenged.
Tuesday, the buildings -- daytime home of more than 50,000 workers -- were destroyed when two hijacked passenger jets were flown into the structures.
CNN's Leon Harris spoke with Aaron Swirsky, part of the architectural team led by World Trade Center chief architect Minoru Yamasaki, on the way the building was designed.
LEON HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: So many of us had thought for so long that the Twin Towers were invincible. We had heard for so many times over the years that the buildings have been built to withstand an impact from the crash of a plane.
Let's talk right now on the telephone with Aaron Swirsky. He's in Jerusalem. He was one of the original architects of the complex, as I understand it.
Is that the case, Mr. Swirsky?
AARON SWIRSKY, ARCHITECT: I was working with Minoru Yamasaki, who is the architect of the building. But I was one of the workers with him. We were a team of 14 architects, and I was one of the members of the team.
HARRIS: As a member of the team, and having such insight to how this building was constructed, could you believe that a plane could bring these buildings down?
SWIRSKY: No, as a matter of fact, one of the rationales of the structure of the building was that it would be built as a pipe. And that proved itself to work during the explosion of 1993, when a hole was brought into the building, and it survived. But somehow, nobody could foresee anything like (Tuesday's incident).
Also, at that time, the planes were not like these types of planes that we have now. I think the biggest plane was a 100-passenger plane, something like that, and the fuel capacity of those planes was not like they are today.
The criterion was that if a plane hits, it would go right through it. And nobody could foresee something like that. The tower was protected in such a way that the damage would be limited to one story, but it wouldn't travel to the other stories.
HARRIS: The planes that crashed yesterday were much bigger than that. They were 757s.
SWIRSKY: And also the fuel capacity is much more tremendous.
HARRIS: Exactly. That's what I want to ask you about. Which was it that made the biggest difference? Was it the impact felt from the larger plane, or was it the heat generated by the burning and that much fuel.
SWIRSKY: I imagine, when I saw the pictures of the implosion of the building, it looks like the fuel must have leaked right to the core of the building, and from there it was the massive explosion that caused the building to collapse. So it was something completely unforeseen, so far as the design criteria was (concerned).
HARRIS: Let me ask one final question, if I may. Considering what you know about the building -- you say it was constructed like a pipe, these two buildings -- and the manner in which we saw them collapse, does that give you any hope at all that the way it collapsed, there will be more packets inside, at the bottom, where survivors could be found?
SWIRSKY: Well, I sure hope so. We pray that there will be survivors and that this won't happen again. It's a terrible, terrible, incredible tragedy.
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It appears that you called it exactly right, _Jim. It's too bad that on the thread where you explained this you were pooped on by a bunch of anarchist, conspiracy-sniffing loons.
What is this guy talking about? The 747 was flying in 1969.
It's an interesting figure I plucked from a quick read that the building had an extimated mass of 1,000,000 tons. If contents were 70 tons per floor and we have 220 floors between the two towers, that brings the debris to 1,154,000 tons. If building 7 and the hotel and others are thrown in that is approximately 1,500,000 tons.
As of today they have said they have moved 20,000 tons of debris which means that they are only 1.33 Percent through the pile.
Damn!
This occured to me too. The fact that it fell straight down(almost like a planned demolition) saved untold thousands of lives.
I know they are supposed to withstand tremendous stresses and some have withstood the test of time, but it still seems to me that A Pyramid shape would be much more sturdy. I particularly like the Ziggurat style where there are tiers.
Of course it would require a little more real estate but I am certain that a pyramid shape would withstand much more stress. I even like the BankAmerica pyramid although it does not have a large enough base.
That's wonderful monday morning quarterbacking by so called experts, but the reality is nobody expected the buildings to collapse. The NYFD has the best structural engineers at their disposal, and yet many firefighters died, suggesting this was never thought to be possible. Totally un-expected.
Simply, this is an event that has never happend before and nobody knew what would happen.
I would even go as far to say that the poeple who planned this terrorist act never expected the buildings to collapse.
For sure, there was always a possibility of a total structural failure from heat, but in this case--the buildings collapsing was a total surprise to all.
For the record, steel is severely weakend at 800C, but it does not melt into a liquid, or semi-liquid form at this temperature.
My conclusion, reached because there doesn't SEEM to be enough debris for all the materials used in the structures, was that large upper portions of the buildings vaporized due to the heat.
Another factor, IF TRUE, is that the terrorist on the flight that downed in Pa. stated they had a bomb. I wondered if all the flights might also have had bombs aboard ... but then, bombs, or their components could not have cleared security.
I tried looking for it( search), but could not find it. If you come across it, let me know.