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The Price of Panseyhood
Rense.com ^ | Sept-13-2001 | Ned Stafford

Posted on 09/16/2001 5:42:22 PM PDT by GhostSoldier

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To: Don Roberts
Listen twit, that is actually not at all what this gentlemen said. And he never decried women, he merely expresses exasperation with our ridiculous blow dried media minxes masquerading as reporters and he vents about our overly feminized military. Both observations are correct. I took my son to Annapolis and saw plebe women dragging their tiny little tushes around on a 90 degree day staggering under the weight of their weapons. This summer when sharks prowled the water I laughed to my mother at the site of a 90 pound female lifeguard straining to do pushups only to hop back up on her chair grab her bullhorn and get back to the business of protecting 1000 plus swimmers. yeah right! People look at me funny when I complain about this stuff.

Meanwhile, I think he is correct: a complete takeover of a winnable toehold is a brilliant and would humiliate them right back.

Where he misses the mark is the work that can be done right here at home. Americans are energized. Let them make citizen arrests if need be. I know it scares the hell out of some Freepers, but some civil rights are gonna get trampled on for a while. Weenies, what do you propose instead. A suitcase bomb at a sub base or Dover Airforce? Or maybe some lovely biological warfare because the enemy underneath our nose is allowed to carry on here business as usual? Bunk. Americans are buying their guns and want to be patriots. Believe me a bunch of Latino's in Jersey City NJ are gonna be just as patriotic about turning in some jihad warrior as yer blue eyed blonde fella from Cumberland GA. They want to breathe clean air too, y'know and they don't want their country blown up. Let's let the men step to the front, I support that. And I am letting all pansey liberals in my path know it. If they don't like that, tough it's a new day. V's wife.

21 posted on 09/16/2001 6:36:15 PM PDT by ventana
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To: gcruse
The article has some salient points, but I dislike the defeatism. It sounds as if he's already given up. I haven't. ;)
22 posted on 09/16/2001 6:38:40 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Don Roberts
I'm sorry for my previous post to you. I misread it.
23 posted on 09/16/2001 6:44:19 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: GhostSoldier
Mega-bump.

A great deal of truth here!

Kudos.

24 posted on 09/16/2001 6:47:00 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: GhostSoldier
Mega-bump.

A great deal of truth here!

Kudos.

25 posted on 09/16/2001 6:47:01 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: JMJ333
The article has some salient points, but I dislike
the defeatism. It sounds as if he's already given up. I haven't. ;)

 I know.  That's why  I wouldn't push it publicly.
  There is nothing moral about war.  And we
  are going to have to take a long trip to the
  dark side for this one.

  How much of our wonderful self-image
  and we willing to give up to fight dirty?

26 posted on 09/16/2001 6:48:32 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I don't know. Do you think the women in the marine corp will still demand to wear their red lipstick? :)
27 posted on 09/16/2001 6:56:31 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
I don't know. Do you think the women in the marine
corp will still demand to wear their red lipstick? :)

ROFL  !!!!!!!!!!

   She stoops to conquer.

I do love you

28 posted on 09/16/2001 7:00:08 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: GhostSoldier
I think that rather than pansyhood it was 8 years of traitorhood.Led by the clinton enablers, defenders, and apologist both in and out of the media.

I also believe that we need deal with the traitors that are among us,that hold political office, are members of the media, and are in hollywood before we look overseas.

I will close with the observation that this is only the first installment of the price of the clinton regime's treachery that will be paid with blood of American citizens.
John A/K/A Sport

29 posted on 09/16/2001 7:05:38 PM PDT by sport
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To: GhostSoldier
This writer made some sobering points that the talking heads won't be slobbering over themselves on the idiot box. To those I would like to add some points of my own.

This nation from top to bottom does not have a clue to what national security truly means.

I am for openness in government, but when it comes to national security there must be secrecy and discipline. Of course we must elect some people to office with moral character so that they will not claim national security to cover up their own criminality or depravity.

We may be a nation of laws but there is no need to hamstring ourselves with international law and world courts when operating off our shores.

The reality of the present situation requires that we have an intelligence service of trained killers and kidnappers who covertly operate off our shores.

If we could, our best course of action now, would be to take out anyone we could find on the face of the earth who has had contact with the terrorist network.

Sure it makes a statement to bomb 19th century Afghanistan back to the 16th century.

But in this new war it is better and more efficient to operate in the dark than in the light of international wall to wall TV coverage. A dead unknown terrorist serves our purpose better than one who is known and headed for martyrdom among the millions looking for destruction of our civilization.

We have no evidence that these terrorists carry weapons or are trained to defend themselves against highly trained killers.

The terrorists who are of greatest threat to us are not the ones in Syria, Iraq, or Palestine. Those terrorists cannot get into our country directly from those terrorists states. They must nest and enter from an ally.

We should be doing some kidnapping and killing of potential terrorists when they are in these states supposedly friendly to us.

There are rumors that some terrorists have fled to Mexico. How difficult would it be to kidnap and dispose of them while they were in Mexico? It is not after all like kidnapping and murder is a rare occurence in Mexico.

Of course such actions goes against the panseyhood so acutely identified by the author in his article.

30 posted on 09/16/2001 7:07:54 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: GhostSoldier
I think the time has come to take the gloves off -- and I mean the nuclear gloves. If the states that harbor or give assistance to these bastards won't turn them over, we should treat them as if they had performed the attack, themselves, and bomb them back to the Stone Age. If our forces have to deploy, let them clear the way with tactical nukes.
31 posted on 09/16/2001 7:10:28 PM PDT by Bush2000
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If the leaders of our country would have the balls and wisdom of Golda Meir or Mme Thatcher, we would invade not Libya, but the Arabic peninsula.

You need to know why ?

1. It is in the best interest of the United States.
2. It is very easy to accomplish.
2. All terrorist actions were financed with money originated fron the Saudis.
3. To solve forever the vital oil supply for the whole world.

32 posted on 09/16/2001 7:27:36 PM PDT by ConvictHitlery
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To: ConvictHitlery
I would add one more point in favor of such an invasion and annexation : The Saudi Royal Family is going to be kicked out of power within a few years anyway- they are corrupt, and will not last. Remember the Shah of Iran- and how surprised we were when he was overthrown? History does repeat itself in some cases.

We might as well seize the oilfields NOW, rather than see them fall into the hands of someone else (China?) in a few years.

Of course, this will not happen- because Americans are not capable of the geopolitical thinking required, nor the ruthlessness. We just want to be loved, like a Labrador puppy.

33 posted on 09/16/2001 7:36:33 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: GhostSoldier
Ned Stafford is a foolish and sheltered man. Though he is a good conveyor of snapshot looks at what might be so, he has no credit for what might be. Even clergy are now advocating or expressing toleration for military action. Some even understand an argument for the use of nuclear weapons. Stafford be damned! Something will be done.
34 posted on 09/16/2001 7:45:58 PM PDT by jimfree (jimwass@aol.com)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
It appears that we lost a large number of "women and children" in this atrocity. Why are you so concerned about the enemy? Are you not an American? Or are you just stupid? You are not morally superior in any way to the rest of us- you are just weak.

Unfortunately, Don Roberts' original post appears to be missing, so I do not know what he said. Was he arguing that we should be avoid harming women and children?

If so, do you see anything wrong with that?

35 posted on 09/16/2001 8:29:42 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
Do you think that his posts would have been pulled for just advocating "not harming women and children"? Sheesh!
36 posted on 09/16/2001 8:46:09 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Do you think that his posts would have been pulled for just advocating "not harming women and children"? Sheesh!

I would think not, unless he also used profanity, engaged in personal attacks, or otherwise violated the rules. In which case, I do not care what he thinks.

What do you think of harming women and children in the process of attacking terrorists. Is it a good idea? Can it be avoided? Should we try? (Just curious.)

37 posted on 09/16/2001 8:55:55 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
Don Roberts post is included in my response to him...post 10
38 posted on 09/16/2001 8:59:12 PM PDT by GhostSoldier
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To: GhostSoldier
Don Roberts post is included in my response to him...post 10

Thanks. Don Roberts does seem to be worked up, although perhaps no more than some others I have read lately.

39 posted on 09/16/2001 9:06:11 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
No, you are not "just curious". You are trying to paint me into a corner, so that you can trot out your "moral superiority" and wave it around to let us all know how ineffably wonderful you are. Like Mother Teresa, only BETTER! No American strike will be aimed at "women and children", or at innocent noncombatants in general. But are there going to be some killed anyway? Oh, yes. Probably quite a few.

War is a VERY BAD THING, which is why these folks should have thought about the likely results before starting one with us.

40 posted on 09/16/2001 9:12:58 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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