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'Don't ask me to kill ... or to die' (This is our Military?)
Lar Larson Show KXL Radio - Portland Ore | 9/17/01 | LAURA VILLANI (PFC Oregon National Guard)

Posted on 09/17/2001 2:31:41 PM PDT by SAMWolf

'Don't ask me to kill ... or to die'

I am a 19-year-old college student. I joined the Oregon National Guard two months before I turned 18.

I write about the possibility of war. I am still in shock about everything that has happened. I want the people responsible to pay for their crimes.

And those are the only people who should pay.

If we go to war, it will be my generation that will have to go. America will ask us to give up our dreams and to die for our country. We will be asked to leave our loved ones, to leave our educations and to die alongside our brothers, sisters and friends.

Please don't ask us to do this. I am not afraid to defend my country, but I am afraid for my country. Enough people have died already. Please don't ask me to kill others or to die myself in the name of revenge.

LAURA VILLANI, Private first class, Pendleton


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I'd sure want her in my foxhole covering my butt < /sarcasm>

What a self-centered, shallow, selfish b*tch!!!

The only reason her generation has it's Freedom is because of previous generations who DID give up our dreams and to die for our country. We will be asked to leave our loved ones, to leave our educations and to die alongside our brothers, sisters and friends.

1 posted on 09/17/2001 2:31:41 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Portland. Doesn't surprise me.
2 posted on 09/17/2001 2:35:43 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: SAMWolf
This sounds like a kid who should have had a relative on board one of those four airplanes.

(Assuming, that is, that it's even a legitimate letter to begin with.)

3 posted on 09/17/2001 2:36:17 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: SAMWolf
Another indication that women have no business in combat positions.
4 posted on 09/17/2001 2:36:47 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: SAMWolf
Oh she'll have a good time at drill this month. Hohoho. WTF she's not in the combat arms anyways. Shut up girl. I know infantrymen right now who're literally chuckling and praying for a chance to stick it to these murdering SOBs right now. If she were a guy and I were enlisted I'd probably sucker punch this PFC in the supply house.

She obviously needs to read The American Battle Hymn to fuel her warrior spirit.

5 posted on 09/17/2001 2:37:43 PM PDT by American Soldier
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To: SAMWolf
No problem, SW. After her stretch in the stockade, she can hang her letter of dishonorable discharge on the wall -- right next to the diploma she got courtesy of the country she refused to fight for. That ought to make her grandchildren real proud.
6 posted on 09/17/2001 2:37:46 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: SAMWolf
This is pitiful. "Gee, I just signed up for the free college degree. I didn't think you guys were rilly serious about that war junk. Can't I just go home now?"
7 posted on 09/17/2001 2:38:16 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: SAMWolf
What did she think the guns were for?
8 posted on 09/17/2001 2:38:21 PM PDT by dead
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To: SAMWolf
Sorry my original response :

The only reason her generation has it's Freedom is because of previous generations who DID give up our dreams and to die for our country. We will be asked to leave our loved ones, to leave our educations and to die alongside our brothers, sisters and friends.

Should have read:

The only reason her generation has its' Freedom is because of previous generations who DID give up their dreams and died for our country. They left their loved ones, left their educations and died alongside their brothers, sisters and friends.

I was so upset by this letter I did a cut and paste and forgot to edit.

9 posted on 09/17/2001 2:38:53 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
If she is sent off to fight a war, she wouldn't last long. Her own buddies would finish her. They wouldn't let her get them killed. I would hope that the Oregon Guard kicks her rear end out though.
10 posted on 09/17/2001 2:39:10 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: anniegetyourgun
I do recall a pledge one takes...To defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic.
11 posted on 09/17/2001 2:39:12 PM PDT by eternity
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To: sirgawain
Pitiful. Along the same lines, I just heard on the radio (New York 880AM) that some people wanted to find an American flag in Portland, Oregon but couldn't locate one. If there are any Portland Oregon Freepers maybe they can tell us their eyewitness account. My town is red white and blue all over buildings, cars, houses, mailboxes, etc.
12 posted on 09/17/2001 2:39:22 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: anniegetyourgun
You know, women are perfectly qualified for a majority of combat positions -- some even more qualified than the men who currently hold them. Just because one woman is now feeling remorse for joining the National Guard to get a cheap education doesn't mean the rest of us are incapable.
13 posted on 09/17/2001 2:39:26 PM PDT by ldakers
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To: anniegetyourgun
Exactly! What did she expect?! What did she just think that it was all about getting her 'woman's rights' and the rest was easy? Or was it just to see if she could get in and screw up the rest of the military? Either way, she should have her rear kicked out.
14 posted on 09/17/2001 2:40:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: anniegetyourgun
Don't lump all military women in the same category as this coward. I served in Desert Storm with many outstanding women warriors. I carried a .38 and was ready and willing to use it if necessary. (Still am, though I'm no longer on active duty.)
15 posted on 09/17/2001 2:40:45 PM PDT by Jen
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To: SAMWolf
Why did she join? Maybe she just figured the National Guard was just another hand-out program from the Government.
16 posted on 09/17/2001 2:41:32 PM PDT by surfer
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To: SAMWolf
Please don't ask us to do this.

what? you thought you were signing up for welfare when you joined the guard?

you think you got in the wrong line?

freepin unbelievable. an army of one. you are a disgrace.

17 posted on 09/17/2001 2:41:38 PM PDT by glock rocks (fmcdh)
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To: SAMWolf
What a disgusting, stupid, whinging little idiot this Laura is. " Please don't ask me to die "? Why the *&%^$##%%^^ did she jpin the military in the first place ?

Why females should NOT be allowed in the military !

18 posted on 09/17/2001 2:41:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SAMWolf
What a disgusting, stupid, whinging little idiot this Laura is. " Please don't ask me to die "? Why the *&%^$##%%^^ did she join the military in the first place ?

Why females should NOT be allowed in the military !

19 posted on 09/17/2001 2:42:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ldakers
You know, women are perfectly qualified for a majority of combat positions -- some even more qualified than the men who currently hold them.

Maybe in the movies, but not in real life...
20 posted on 09/17/2001 2:42:22 PM PDT by motzman
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To: MistrX
LOL. Quote of the day!!!
21 posted on 09/17/2001 2:42:51 PM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: The Other Harry
What an absolutely horrible thing to say!
22 posted on 09/17/2001 2:42:56 PM PDT by surfer
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To: SAMWolf
Please don't ask me to kill others or to die myself in the name of revenge. LAURA VILLANI, Private first class, Pendleton

Oh, of course not, Laurie. We'd have to be a bunch of big meansters to ask that of you! Give me an effing break!!??

THIS is why the U.S. Army should be MEN, and not WOMEN.

23 posted on 09/17/2001 2:43:23 PM PDT by Gargantua
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To: SAMWolf
What a whining, whimpering wuss. If she's not willing to kill in defense of her country, why did she even elist to begin with? It's not like she was forced into it... It's still a volunteer military.

That little girl needs to grow up.

24 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:00 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: SAMWolf
This honey is really going to be upset when she finds that the white wine in the mess hall is domestic!!!
25 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:02 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: SAMWolf
Laura should go to Washington, DC and look at the Vietnam wall or go to the local World War II monument and look at it. Those people did not wish to die or kill. They did what they must. She enlisted. Let her do her duty. desertion in time of war is a capital offense.

Stay well - Yorktown

26 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:07 PM PDT by harpseal
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To: motzman
Maybe in the movies, but not in real life...

naw, not even in the movies... that’s what breeds this bullhonk.

27 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:07 PM PDT by glock rocks (fmcdh)
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To: SAMWolf
She took our money, she can stand and fight or face the firing squad. We were all young once, we all took our turn, these selfish people want what others died for but want to give nothing. Throw her in the brig, bread and water for ten years.
28 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:31 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: SAMWolf
Why did she join then? Was it just for the money? The scholarships? What a loser.
29 posted on 09/17/2001 2:44:54 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: SAMWolf
"Please don't ask us to do this. I am not afraid to defend my country..."

Unfortunately, her definition of defending her country consists of showing up for her weekend drills, possibly in her uniform (plus lipstick), and collecting her check...

"but I am afraid for my country."

If this is a representation of our National Guard, then I fear for MY country (that I spent over 22 years in the military defending) also...sad...

" Enough people have died already.

She's right in this...and we'd prefer to keep the death toll at this number. Unfortunately, freedom ain't free babe.

" Please don't ask me to kill others or to die myself in the name of revenge. "

Ask? I don't remember my military superiors asking me about my opinions about mission objectives, and I was a CDR (O-5), not a PFC. Who says we're acting for revenge? Perhaps we're doing this for National Security!

If this is for real, I pity this "servicemember"...DEVELOP A SPINE PRIVATE!

30 posted on 09/17/2001 2:45:02 PM PDT by Ethrane
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"LAURA VILLANI, Private first class, Pendleton"

Pacifists have their place - the Armed Service is NOT that place. A true pacifist will still serve their country in the medic corp (as Lew Ayer did in WWII), or in the Red Cross, or by caring for refugees - but when you enter the armed services willingly you take an OATH to defend this Nation and this Constitution. Obviously this woman lied when she took that oath - and as a result, her words mean NOTHING.

Take a note of her name and rank - I would suggest reporting her to her commanding officer with the caveat that she be REMOVED from her post before she causes any soldiers to die on the field of battle...

31 posted on 09/17/2001 2:45:04 PM PDT by dandelion
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So she joined the Oregon National Guard for the money, or what?!

All this whiny pacifism is starting to piss me off, especially when it's coming from alleged National Guard members.

32 posted on 09/17/2001 2:45:07 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: SAMWolf
This is one of the biggest failures in our National Guard and Reserve programs. They attrack far too many people who want the money and benefits, but who don't want the responsibility.

This person should be given a dishonorable discharge and we should return to the days when no employer would hire such a person.

33 posted on 09/17/2001 2:45:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: The Other Harry
The letter is legit. The Commander of the Oregon NG was being interviewed and he read the letter on the air. I asked the Radio station for an e-mail copy and it was forwarded to me.
34 posted on 09/17/2001 2:45:57 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: nopardons
Why females should NOT be allowed in the military !

Any person, man or woman, with this kind of shallow outlook on life shouldn't even be allowed to vote, let alone join the military.

35 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: SAMWolf
the soldier beside her should consider her an enemy
36 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:08 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: ldakers
Bump to ya...
37 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:28 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: SAMWolf
This self-centered, empty-headed little b*tch should be dishonorably booted out of service. She is a stain.
38 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:41 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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What I want to know is WHY WAS THIS PRINTED!!! Undermining morale!! The paper should be shamed for acting in a matter against the government and the military!!! Bah!!

The Red Zone is now in New York as well. These people who are clueless need to get with the program!

39 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:50 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: SAMWolf
Please don't ask me to kill others or to die myself in the name of revenge.

No problem with me. I'm not in favor of women as combat troops in the first place. Nor do I favor drafting women. This young woman can stay home if she likes. But she'd better not dare cross over into criticizing those who are willing to make the supreme sacrifice for their country, while she shelters herself behind the safety they provide.

40 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:52 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: AFVetGal
Good post.
My son is talking about enlisting, and my future daughter-in-law (gulp) is an AZ NG Combat Medic.
She's ready to go, already...
41 posted on 09/17/2001 2:46:55 PM PDT by HiJinx
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To: Don Myers
It doesn't sound like she understands what being in the military is all about. She should read "The Greatest Generation." We've had soft lives since Vietnam, so many of our young people don't understand the hard cold reality of what it takes to be free...certainly, Laura doesn't. I, for one, as a mother of two small kids, am grateful that we have a standing army that is fierce, well-trained and ready to die for our way of life. I know because my cousin is one of them, and I wouldn't want him mad at me.
42 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:09 PM PDT by courty
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To: SAMWolf
(Sigh) Why doesn't this "soldier" just suggest we surrender? After all, we wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone. (/bitter sarcasm)
43 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:34 PM PDT by neutrino (neutrino)
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To: MistrX
BUMP for your # 7. Fortunately, the majority of our people don't feel this way.
44 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:36 PM PDT by Right Face
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To: SAMWolf
Sometimes a PFC needs a little attitude adjustment by the First Sergeant or Platoon Sergeant (On at least one occasion General Patton had to bitch slap a coward). I hope this soldier's opinion comes to their attention, soon.
45 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:52 PM PDT by Movemout
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To: SAMWolf
the only comfort I think we can give her are the words of Patton: Victory is not gained by the soldier dying in the foxhole for his (in this case, her) country, but by making the other bastard die for his country.

What, does she think we're going to do what the enemy made their soldiers do? Commit suicide?

Geez.....

46 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:53 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: ldakers
"...women are perfectly qualified for a majority of combat positions..."

Keep dreaming. The vast majority of them don't have the strength, the endurance or the mindset to prevail in combat. It's well-known that they slow everybody else down in basic training and that men have to carry their load for them.

47 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:55 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: SAMWolf
Her perspective is not unusual in the reserves. I did 4yrs active with the 82d airborne which was alright and everyone I served with knew that we were never more than a week away from getting shot at but when I got out and went into the Guard while doing college I met some guardsmen and reservists who were only in it for the educational benefits and the beer money (space available flights etc.) basically bums with short hair and shiny boots. That was before the gulf war, things may have changed since then but your post makes me think it hasn't changed very much.
48 posted on 09/17/2001 2:47:58 PM PDT by jothamdorn
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49 posted on 09/17/2001 2:48:10 PM PDT by d14truth
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To: SAMWolf
How pathetic. Fortunately this loser is the exception not the rule.

Our real men and women in uniform are just waiting from orders from the top.

They will exact a payment from the people who did this, never doubt them.

50 posted on 09/17/2001 2:48:20 PM PDT by LibKill
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