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Know Your Enemy
Sept 14? | American in Israel

Posted on 09/18/2001 3:08:03 AM PDT by American in Israel

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To: blam
It appears that you are partially correct.

China has apparently purchased an incomplete Aircraft carrier from the Ukraine. It has no engines and is being towed around in circles in the Black Sea north of Turkey. That'll certainly provide air cover for their invasion of the United States.

This article was dated July 27, 2001. If it were April 1, 2001, I would have chalked it up to an April Fools joke.

China-Turkey Hassle Hits Flattop

101 posted on 09/18/2001 7:07:53 PM PDT by cc2k
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To: cc2k
"It appears that you are partially correct."

Partially? What part was incorrect? (Ps....Turkey is saying that it to dangerous to tow through the strait.)

102 posted on 09/18/2001 7:23:55 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
It's a partial aircraft carrier.
103 posted on 09/18/2001 7:38:59 PM PDT by cc2k
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To: American in Israel
The politically correct crowd will not like this...I will quote my hero

Trust but verify

I am sick of being told that this is not all of Islam...when it sure is!

104 posted on 09/18/2001 7:45:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: 2sheep
Sin separates man from God so God will not hear. If people want to hear Him and to be heard, they MUST repent. The concept of "saved by grace" has been overblown out of proportion.

Thought I would give a scripture for the folks that will choose not to believe that

Isaiah - 59:1Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

59:2But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid [his] face from you, that he will not hear.

59:3For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

59:4None calleth for justice, nor [any] pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

105 posted on 09/18/2001 7:49:30 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: American in Israel
A voice crying in the wilderness.

We know not what we do.

May God have mercy on us.

106 posted on 09/18/2001 8:06:03 PM PDT by Countyline
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To: cc2k
"It's a partial aircraft carrier."

LOL. Okay.

107 posted on 09/18/2001 8:17:43 PM PDT by blam
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To: harpseal
." I am willing to listen to any suggestions anyone has for something that will work but always keep in mind that poisoning a well or destroying an olive tree is considered worse than murder in most of the Islamic dessert.

Hunt down and kill every member of every Arab terrorist group, no matter what nation they are from, or what nation they are residing in.

Make it so that goatherding is a much, much safer profession than terrorism.

Perhaps we could use the psy-ops bit about pigs on them too. All caught terrorists will be killed with bullets coated in bacon grease or something....

110 posted on 09/18/2001 8:46:18 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: 2sheep
Russia/China/Arab consortium

Sorry, but that's nonsense.

If we were gone, China and the Muslims would devour Russia. And Russia knows it.

111 posted on 09/18/2001 8:48:33 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: cc2k,DAnconia55,EastTexAnn,sirgawain,rubofthebrush,Miles Bennel,Jeremiah Jr,Hebrews 11:6,Jmouse007
When and from where did China get aircraft carriers? During the crisis earlier this year with the Navy plane that was force down in China, we heard that China's navy was very primitive. Actually, some called it "nearly nonexistant." In 6 months, I find it hard to believe that they now have Aircraft Carriers.

The Cox report said that COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment.  We have posted the links to that many times.  Excerpt from:  Panama Canal & Hutchison Whampoa limited:

"Although presented as a commercial entity," according to the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, "COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment." The Clinton administration has determined that additional information concerning COSCO that appears in the Select Committee's classified Final Report cannot be made public without affecting national security." ...PRC Acquisition of U.S. Technology --  PRC Acquisition of U.S. Technology -- PRC Purchase of Interests in U.S. Companies  ...The Cox Report

Interview with Chinese Dissident Harry Wu by J.R. Nyquist
Harry Wu on the real China
The Chinese art of war: J.R. Nyquist
CHINA'S STRATEGIC DECEPTION
COSCO CHOOSES CPR SERVICE INTO U.S. HEARTLAND
China Prepares U.S. War Scenarios
Canada Targeted by China Agents (target America?)

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Click here for the BIG PICTURE

Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part One)
Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part Two)
Chinese Genocide Against Mongols (Part Three)

Earlier, I posted the following here - #108:

>>>You're putting too much on the plate at one time. Readers can't possibly consume it all at one sitting.

I suggest a speed reading course in the Bible, in prophecy and in FR's archives.  Judgment is nigh.

>>>Driving across I-40 through New Mexico and Arizona, the motorist encounters freight train after freight train loaded with COSCO containers full of Chinese manufactured goods. They are loaded with our electronic products, clothing, shoes, stuffed animals (all are made in China), toys.....you name it!

Okay.  I'll name it.  COSCO was caught with a container of assault weapons under Clinton's reign but the matter was lightly disposed of and attributed to someone wanting to arm blacks in Los Angeles.  Too few mentioned that those could have been intended to arm the military age Chinese young men being smuggled into the country.  Too few mentioned that there could be not just a container full of assault rifles, but a container shiploads full of assault weapons being smuggled in as well.

>>>Good points, but two different topics unless you are suggesting that the Chinese communists are God's way of punishing our sinful nation.

I am suggesting that.  The Bible is full of God's word.  None of it He calls "suggestions"...read here and you decide:

 De 28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
 47 Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
 49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Read also Jeremiah 50 and 51, Isaiah 13, 47, and if you have a New Testament, Rev. 17 & 18.  That will be a start.

Chinese Alien Smuggling

See bookmarks of 2sheep for more.

112 posted on 09/18/2001 10:31:37 PM PDT by 2sheep (Rev. 18:4)
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To: 2sheep
An interesting snippit I found pertaining to the stratigic placement of Chinese forces.

China has gained, through economic agreements and overt military occupation, partial control of vital sea lanes. The Chinese-controlled Hutchison-Whampoa Ltd. controls both ends of the Panama Canal and has a fifty-year agreement to operate it. Last April, this company was awarded a 30-year concession to manage Egypt’s Port Said, the gateway to the Suez Canal through which U.S. Navy as well as European and American commercial ships pass on their way to the Persian Gulf.

Not only can they block us from Alantic/Pacific transit, they are in position to bottle us up in the ME. I was not aware they had gotten control of the Suez too.

113 posted on 09/18/2001 11:52:00 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: 2sheep
There are 50,000,000+ able bodied gun owners in America.

Many are more proficient than the police.

To beat us on our turf, they'd need at LEAST 50 million, if not 100 million. With no support on their side from the populace, but plenty of support for our side.

And then there's the small problem of 'smuggling' 50,000,000 Chinese into the US.

Freighters? Do you know how slow they move? How easily the Air force could dispose of them? We could sink every freighter on the Pacific in a week if we were so inclined.

And if you're not using ships, it's an awfully long swim...

The only halfway remotely fantasy of a US invasion would have to be conducted from Mexico by land. Or perhaps through Alaska. But we'd see them preparing.

It ain't gonna happen.

We might get nuked, but there's no chance at all of any nation landing on us. We'd get 900 of 1000 ships before they could even see the coast.

The rest would be mop up for the militia, even if every active duty soldier was overseas.

114 posted on 09/18/2001 11:56:56 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: American in Israel
Any ownership of the Panama Canal, is totally at our allowance. Don't kid yourself.

Marines would take it back in a heartbeat, if the Chinese tried to stop passage of our vessels in wartime.

115 posted on 09/18/2001 11:58:43 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: nunya bidness
And if I wasn't concerned enough harpseal changes his signature line. Now I'm worried.

LOL. that's been bothering me, too.

116 posted on 09/19/2001 12:14:24 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: American in Israel
Bump for brilliance
117 posted on 09/19/2001 12:15:01 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: 2sheep
I'll agree with you there, Bro'. Without repentence and the complete reversal of lifestyle that goes with it, Grace gets trashed. This means, among other things, dumping a lot of old friends for your new Friend.
119 posted on 09/19/2001 3:20:43 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe, nunya bidness
Re: My signature line.

The times seem to demand it. It is time for every Amercan to be concerned not only with their own safety but the safety of their friends and neighbors. The number of targets that exist in this nation is far too high for government protection. Do you have a corporate id that may provide access to a site that could be a terror target? Is there a vulnerable portion of the elctric, or telecomm grid near you. Are there places where a significant number of people gather near you? Is there a significant agricultural operation near you? Do you live in a potential staging area for an operation against any of the above?

I have not listed all the targets or even a significant portion and I am careful of what I state as potential targets limiting only to what others have discussed in national media.

Stay well - Stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

120 posted on 09/19/2001 5:08:10 AM PDT by harpseal
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