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To: surfer
My parents were the WWII generation, the greatest generation. I instinctively, reflexively put any aspect of this up to the yardstick of how they handled Japan and Germany. Now THAT frightens me...

Take anything anyone says or does now and imagine it as the response to Hiroito and to Hitler. Say, after Pearl Harbor, entertainment superstars get together and say NOTHING about patriotism or war, but rather have a telethon that emphasizes their concern that someone in the USA might say something mean to a Japanese-American.

Prejudice against Arabs who live in America, whatever someone THINKS about this subject and diversity, etc.---this is NOTHING compared to the WAR we face. And these leftist idiots among us---like those who appeared last night, with only a couple of exceptions I can think of (Clint talked tough; Petty was the ONLY one who sang an appropriate song)---are too DOGMATIC to admit that we won't have to WORRY about diversity and hate if we are destroyed by Islam.

9 posted on 09/22/2001 7:48:48 AM PDT by gg188
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To: gg188
amen
14 posted on 09/22/2001 7:53:42 AM PDT by surfer
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To: gg188
It's comforting to have a parent who lived through WWII right now, isn't it? Something my mother told me makes me feel a little better. She was at U. of Mich. after Pearl Harbor and there were students protesting our involvement in WWII even then...at U. of M. and at campuses across the country. Off campus, though, even those who remembered the horrors of WWI and kept us out of the war before Pearl Harbor rallied.

Hollywood is not a unifying force. They threw a big wet blanket on President Bush's efforts to steel the country for the coming years and support our necessary military efforts, IMHO. Only bright spot, Osama despises them and was probably more outraged than we were at Hollywood's international display of "morality." (^:

27 posted on 09/22/2001 8:42:31 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: gg188
Take anything anyone says or does now and imagine it as the response to Hiroito and to Hitler. Say, after Pearl Harbor, entertainment superstars get together and say NOTHING about patriotism or war, but rather have a telethon that emphasizes their concern that someone in the USA might say something mean to a Japanese-American.

Apparently you are blind and deaf as well as a fearfull little shrew. The purpose of the program was to raise funds for the families of those who died in the attacks. It was also to pay tribute to the heroism shown by many of those who died and those who continued to work to save those in the rubble. The purpose was not to convince Americans that we need to kill terrorists and overthrow countries friedly to them. Virtually all agree that is necessary.

Were there a few who couldnt put aside their leftist tendencies, such as whoever it was (cant remember) who sang Lennon's "Imagine" or the stupid comments by De Niro, sure. But that was a small part of the show.

Prejudice against Arabs who live in America, whatever someone THINKS about this subject and diversity, etc.---this is NOTHING compared to the WAR we face. And these leftist idiots among us---like those who appeared last night, with only a couple of exceptions I can think of (Clint talked tough; Petty was the ONLY one who sang an appropriate song)---are too DOGMATIC to admit that we won't have to WORRY about diversity and hate if we are destroyed by Islam.

You say diversity, I say constitutional law. You miss the whole point but that usually happens with people who "think" emotionally. We are a country of laws and citizens have rights to equal protection under our laws.

Will we have to be more stringent about who we let in this country? Yes. I can even see revoking all visas for the duration and only those screened and approved at the highest levels of our govenment would be allowed to enter. I would also restrict movement of UN personnel and ambassadorial staffs and if they strayed beyond those borders they would be expelled from the country. Unfortunately, I think we will need to do much more suveillance on Arab Americans than in the past. For some it will be like the FBI surveillance of the mafia.

That said, I dont think we should view Arab Americans as the enemy. Most are more patriotic than the sons and daughters of WASP families now attending our most prestigious colleges. Sure they are concerned about potential bombing of certain Muslim countries. If you came from Yoguslavia, you probably would have been concerned about American bombing there, worrying about extended family, etc, but that doesnt mean that you would do anything to hurt the United States.

If Arab Americans turn on the rest of us and become the terrorists you fear, it will not be because the clerics called them to a jihad, it will be fearfull little idiots in this country declare war on them because they dont have enough confidence in our abilty to prevail.

28 posted on 09/22/2001 8:46:07 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: gg188
They see diversity as a weakness. Diversity is a weakness if a government local, state and federal cannot defend its people because it is paralyzed by an oversized immigrant population that they don't want to offend. That is a weakness of republics. See Roman Empire.
54 posted on 09/22/2001 11:31:05 PM PDT by virgil
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To: gg188
I heard a great summary of the differences between what Mohammed/Allah asks of us and what God asks of us according to their teachings:

Muslim:
What is the best deed?
1)Belief in Allah and his apostle (Mohammed).
What is the next in goodness?
2)To participate in Jihad for Allah's cause.

Christian:
What are the two most important things God asks of us?
1)To love God, having no other God's before Him.
2)Love thy neighbor.

63 posted on 09/23/2001 8:06:23 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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