Skip to comments.America's New Religiosity: God Bless America, But Don't You Dare Tell Us To Repent!
Posted on 09/22/2001 10:00:05 AM PDT by BibChr
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But there is no denying that this nation embraces practices and attitudes that God is on-record as loathing.
And that is never healthy!
And you wonder why the American people treat you like the Taliban? Many of you extreme fundamentalists share common characteristics with religious fantatics elsewhere. Maybe you dont cut off the hands of criminals or stone women who wear western clothes but then you did burn your share of witches not that many years ago and before that you forced Arabs and Indians in the new world to forcibly convert to Christianity or die by the sword.
Love and peace.
Being forced to accept other gods is Taliban-like.
nor is there any such thing as a Christianity that stands side by side with Islam, or Judaism, or Buddhism, and says, We worship one God under many names.
Seems to me Christians and Jews do worship one and the same God.
(I have been thoroughly barraged on another thread for asking if Allah weren't just another word for God, so I accept that the god of Islam --and certainly of Buddhism or Ba'hai-ism etc.-- is not the God of Judaism and Christianity.)
What do you know about this?
I can only hope and pray that this horror has brought some people to their senses. Maybe some will realize that they should seek Him every day; not just when they are overwhelmed with helplessness.
On the contrary. Many modern churches support the kind of sins that Falwell railed against. You want to abort, practice sodomy and commit adultery? Join the Methodists, Unitarians, and a number of other "Christian" sects.
Guess what, Dave......God is extreme and demands that we glorify and worship Him and Him alone. You don't get it and likely never will. I feel sorry for you.
Now, go on with your predictable rant.
If you are referring to Salem, it was the secular authorities who executed the 'witches' (and btw, they were not burned), not the religious authorities.
In fact, it was the religious leaders who put a stop to the witch hysteria.
Seems to me Christians and Jews do worship one and the same God.
Judaism is monotheistic, they only believe in Jehovah. Christianity is trinitarian giving full divinity to the three Persons of the Godhead, Father, Son & Holy Spirit. Christ said that He is the only way to the Father, that there is NONE other. So while it is true that Judaism worships Jehovah, the Jehovah that they worship is not fully the Jehovah of Christianity.
Read about the Laeodician church in Revelation.
Oneness says there is but only One God, who manifested Himself to humanity in 3 ways.
Here's one which deals with some of Western Islams camoflauging into something more palletable in the land of the free . Also on the same site there's this which helps one see the 'same God' lie for the falseness that it is .
God of Christianity vs. Allah of Islam
By Abdullah Al Araby
Both Christians and Muslims share belief in a sovereign Deity who is one, heavenly, spiritual, the creator of heaven and earth and the judge of all mankind. Christians call Him " God" and Muslims call Him "Allah". One may thus presume that the attributes of God and Allah are the same. A careful examination of the matter, however, will prove that it is not exactly so.
These four words say it all.
Love and peace.
Who the hell is forcing anyone to accept any of these gods? Mind your own fxx business. Its voices of intolerance whether from fundementalist Christian or Islam which is the trouble. Find God in your own way and dont feel that you have to destroy your neighbor to maintain your own faith. What a weak faith it is that cant stand proudly on its own.
By the way Judaism and Islam teach there is one god. Christianity plays around with three and calls it a mystery. Using the one god argument sounds a little hypicrital for a fundementalist Christian to attack other religions.
And by the way please tell me what denomination has the full truth on God's revelation to man. I dont want to put all my chips on one denomination only to find out they had some element wrong. So who is correct Southern Baptists or some other group? Is the pope the anti-Christ in your world view or merely mistaken?
No, they're a cult -- by definition. See Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults (a good reference book which I believe has been updated by a current author). Walter Martin is dead now, but his work is still valid.
Look at various "cult material" from authoritative Christian groups, which analyze this very thoroughly. It pays to know what constitutes Christianity from a Biblical perspective. And it's not everyone who says "I believe in God", or even "I believe in Christ." Even Christ Himself makes that very clear.
The two largest CULT GROUPS in this country are the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons (Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints).
BTW, I'm not a trinitarian.
How very true !!! I attend a very traditional, conservative church and we haven't replaced the "old sins". Yes, the pressure is there to do so, but we haven't caved. We have lost members (?????) because they don't want to hear about repentance, sanctity of life, the sin of homosexuality, etc. So be it. If they are offended by such preaching they are not truly seeking to worship the one true Triune God.
"Beware of false prophets" (Matt. 7:15). Those who do ministry in a way pleasing to people and against the will of God, those who do not warn against sin, those who twist scriptures and try to justify any manner of living, those assembly preachers who talk about salvation though they themselves are not saved, babblers, those who do ministry with smooth and cunning words to satisfy their lustful desires, those who are likened to dogs which lap up their own vomit, those who give importance to signs and miracles but leave out salvation and holy life- the scriptures warn that all the above kinds of people are false prophets. The Lord tells us to beware of such false prophets and depart from them (Matt. 7:15-23).
Islams founder and others who now claim to be related to Christianity = false prophets .
I didnt say a word in my post about Falwell, although he is a pompous fool. I criticised him last week for his foolish comments which Bush told him were wrong and inappropriate.
Those who preach hate against other religions and other denominations hardly have any reason to question someone's sanity unless they are un-christian. Turn the other cheek...
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Well, for one thing -- Islam is forcing others to believe this. They will kill their own, if they leave Islam for something like Christianity (for one thing). And they have built into their "religion" that they will ultimately force the whole world over to their belief (and by the "sword", too...)
Now, Christianity, as shown in the Bible, itself, does say that the whole world will come over to the true belief in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (which, by the way, is the same God of the Jews and the Christians). That's why the Islamic world is totally against Christians and Jews.
Now, in the Bible, it's Jesus Christ Himself who will establish His rule over the world in which He will rule with an "iron rod" over the whole world and do so from Jerusalem (His capital city).
It's not the Christians who will do so. It's directly by the hand of Christ when He returns. There's a big difference there. Christ will do this -- not the Christians in this world.
Now, what the Christians in this world are to do now is "proclaim the Gospel message" of Salvation to the world -- before the time comes when there is no more "choice" left for the person.
That time comes for us all -- either by death (after which comes the judgement, as told to us in the Bible) -- or at the time when Christ returns and the Kingdom is set up here on this earth (as it is in Heaven).
There is only one true God -- and there is no other besides Him and He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. That's true for Christians and Jews (not counting the little matter of who is the Messiah, which will soon be "resolved"). All other so-called "gods" in this world (and in any other religion are all false gods). They will all be destroyed and all such other religions will cease to exist.
Repenting is a good habit to get into . I'm bookmarking this for later .
Jesus condemned this attitude, but it seems endemic to humanity.
And these threads will go on, and on, and on......
Surely the scourge of abortion would be enough to warrant the unleashing of the wrath of God, but there is so much more!
But what America does not want is a God who is holy, who is just, and who has revealed His will concerning how we, His creatures, are to live. America is a land soaked in blood. We glory in violence. We are so selfish, so bound in our avarice, fornication, and sexual lust, that we murder our own offspring in the womb (or at birth as in partial-birth infanticide). Our hands are covered in blood, and yet we think lighting a candle and lifting them up while mumbling God Bless America is going to bring Gods favor? Listen to the words of God to another nation that likewise was religious but refused to hear the word of repentance:
these two paragraphs say it all.
Do we really need to be reminded that Planned Parenthood has killed more little children in our land in the week since the attacks than died in the attacks themselves?
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE FOR THESE AMERICANS???????
However, we should fight the globalists efforts to lump all religion under one god, and claim that we are all worshiping the same god, we are not in anyway worshipping the same god.
The God of our religion proves himself to be God, telling us the ending from the begining. He is not some vague idea, some unformed thought, some wish of mankind, who has left us some self help, feel good about ourselves, PC, I'm ok Your OK manual. He has detailed his personality, what he expects, where we will fail, how he will save us from that failure, and what the future holds. Looking at past history reveals that the God we worship told from days of old what would happen then, and what will happen tomorrow. Our God is God.
You sanity is not in question - that issue is settled.
Love and peace.
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