[JMJ333]

I have deep respect for the Marion movement of priests, and for Father Gobbi. My parish priest is a member of that movement. Have you actually read any of Father Gobbi's writings?

And I like Camille okay, but she is wrong about the issue regarding paganism. We replaced pagan holidays with holy days or saints feasts days to celebrate truth triumphing over falsehood. What comes to my mind for an example is the image of "Our Lady of Guadalupe."

When Mary appeared to Juan Diego, the same type of thing occured. Namely, the acceleration of the indigenous people throughout mexico. Six years after her appearance, 9 million aztec people had been baptized. Have you ever seen the tilma on which Our Lady is imprinted?

Her mantle has stars, gold sun rays, the moon and an angel. Each relates directly to some aspect of Aztec divinity. For example, the rays of the sun express the presence of the sun god qeutzacoatl. And that She is standing on the moon reminds the Nahuatl [aztecs] of the god of night. She is also being carried by an angel which further relates her to aztec divinity, since royalty and representatives of deities were carried by others.

I could go on about the artistic and technical explanations, but my point is that the symbolism spoke to the nahuatl of the 16th century. So did the events which surrounded the conversion of Pagans.

[Cultural Jihad]

Not sure if this old painting will show in your browser, but it's worth a look.

[a history buff]

If E. Michael Jones is to be believed, I think he is, Gobbi is mendacious, changing his prophecies between editions of his book. Ratzi's office has reigned him in. In other words, I think he's a crank and a fraud. Even if some priests don't.

[DallasDeb]

Her mantle has stars, gold sun rays, the moon and an angel. Each relates directly to some aspect of Aztec divinity. For example, the rays of the sun express the presence of the sun god qeutzacoatl. And that She is standing on the moon reminds the Nahuatl [aztecs] of the god of night. She is also being carried by an angel which further relates her to aztec divinity, since royalty and representatives of deities were carried by others.

All the more proof to me that Satan is behind "Our Lady of Guadalupe." Why in the world would the Holy Spirit have to use symbols of pagan gods to convert a people?

[Unbeliever]

And I like Camille okay, but she is wrong about the issue regarding paganism. We replaced pagan holidays with holy days or saints feasts days to celebrate truth triumphing over falsehood. What comes to my mind for an example is the image of "Our Lady of Guadalupe."

If you mix food with poison, does the the food make the poison nutritious or does the poison mamke the food deadly?
rome does not hold to Gods' truth, but adopts pagan practices in order to gain control of people.