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1 posted on 09/22/2001 8:18:38 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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2 posted on 09/22/2001 8:19:59 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
With all due respect, OKC, how about some real web links?
6 posted on 09/22/2001 8:40:24 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
7 posted on 09/22/2001 8:55:46 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thorough report. If you even put the sources in parenthesis it would have more credibility.

I've seen the Tulsa World article and can validate what you wrote about there.

16 posted on 09/22/2001 9:25:41 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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FYI. Lots more about the Laurel and Arlington connections and about the Air Egypt flight here.
17 posted on 09/22/2001 9:41:22 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: OKCSubmariner
--wow, a lot of info! a lot of work, too! thanks.

An alternate theory of mine on mcveigh/nichols. I think they got re-recruited, and were thinking they were working undercover as part of a big investigation and sting attempt, then got set up as patsies. Various threats and drugs were then used to keep them more or less quiet. Just a pet theory, but I think it makes more sense then mcveigh deciding to do this all on his own, then seeking out islamics to work with. It just doesn't jibe with all the earlier reports of him being a flag waving dotmil guy, I don't think he would have 'worked" with radical islamics, unless ordered to. That would also help to explain the continuuing on-purpose obfuscations and cover-ups.

26 posted on 09/22/2001 10:24:35 PM PDT by zog
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the post.
28 posted on 09/22/2001 10:43:02 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: OKCSubmariner
It also has been reported by the BBC in an article “FBI ‘Ignored Leads’ ” on 9/14/2001 that a pilot trained at the same flight school in Norman, was arrested in Minnesota over a month ago on suspicion of involvement of a terror plot. French intelligence told the FBI at that time the suspect pilot, Zacarias Moussaoui, was a high level Bin Laden lieutenant involved in a terror plot with airplanes. The French are criticizing the FBI for not following up on the French information about the pilot since hundreds of Europeans were killed in the WTC attacks and the French feel proper follow up by the FBI may have averted the attacks.

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30 posted on 09/22/2001 11:06:25 PM PDT by Orion78
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I have wondered for some time if Bin Laden was involved in these crimes. I also wonder if he was and the government knows this, what reason would they have for covering it up? Is it just that they didn't want us to fear? What is the possible reason? Anyone have any idea?
33 posted on 09/22/2001 11:12:38 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: OKCSubmariner, litany_of_lies
Nothing to see here...move along.

Your evidence is credible, I would just like to see more.
done in your best Oliver Twist voice

Firm Ran Security at OK Bomb Site - Part 6
1-5 links
This is just here at FR. And you mean to say that you've actually missed all of these threads despite your longevity at the site? You must have been away for some time!

39 posted on 09/22/2001 11:55:22 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: OKCSubmariner, Carry_Okie
OKCSubmariner, thank you for staying on this topic. I hope that FR remains a vehicle for serious exploration of OKC and WTC conspiracies, despite the wartime conditions.

Carry_Okie, thanks for the ping from another thread.

I am looking for a plausible theory regarding the OKC bombing, that would explain the admission of guilt and silence on the particulars by McVeigh. He just doesn't fit the role of a Middle Eastern patsy.

One can assume that there was a steady stream of warnings about the WTC bombing, since the first attempt. Unless there was a warning that had pointed to the method of attack and the date, what could the FBI possibly do, short of closing down the WTC for good?

61 posted on 09/23/2001 6:31:41 PM PDT by annalex
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To: AtticusX
And here...
63 posted on 09/24/2001 7:15:16 AM PDT by philman_36
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72 posted on 09/28/2001 6:19:17 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner, Uncle Bill
Fine work. Bookmarked for a long read. Thanks a lot.
79 posted on 09/30/2001 5:21:17 AM PDT by Aerial
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To: OKCSubmariner
Great info, thanks again for all the work.
80 posted on 09/30/2001 6:06:23 AM PDT by fnord
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To: OKCSubmariner, Uncle Bill
And another example of FBI failed policy of tracking known terrorists in the US was followed and defended by FBI Director Louis Freeh in May 1995 before Congress. Freeh bragged that the FBI had help populate three Abu Nidal terrorists cells in the US with known middle eastern terrorists who were allowed to roam to long train others and set up more cells like Ali Mohammed without apprehension.

Freeh said the three Abu Nidal cells were in Dallas, Los Angeles and near Washington DC. Abu Nidal is a brutal, blood thirsty terrorist who is close to Sadam Hussain and who may have helped in the recent WTC attacks. In 1999 and in 2000 CBN News and terrorism expert Steve Emerson reported Abu Nidal meeting with Sadam Hussein in Iraq.

OKC, UB;

Do either of you have a source or link for the above?

I tried finding Freeh's statements before congress using Thomas, but was unsuccessful.

TIA,

dan

87 posted on 10/02/2001 12:22:14 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: OKCSubmariner
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89 posted on 01/04/2002 6:38:07 PM PST by Orion78
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