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To: realise
You seem to be implying that everone has the same chance to reach the exalted heights of Bill Gates or any other achiever.

No, what Williams said was that Gates has given more to society than he has received.

Obviously you thought that your own argument would be easier to refute than his, and you were right.

The only way that this could be achieved is to begin with an 'even playing field', unfortunatly the world is not an even playing field, its a myth propogated by right wing economists and politicians to justify less involvement in welfare of their citizens.

Please show us writings from "right wing economists and politicians" that claim the world is an even playing field. No hurry, we'll wait.

These people claim that if people are given the initative to do as they will then most will come up trumps and be able to pay for education, health, and whatever else.

No, mostly they claim it's better for people to support themselves than to be dependent on handouts, and that people work harder when they get to keep what they earn.

If the level playing field was real, as these people would have you believe, why are Blacks and Hispanics continually in a lower socio-economic position that whites?

Like most leftists, you confuse equality of opportunity with equality of results.

If the 'even playing field' did exist then why does the third world exist? Are you saying the rest shold just be left to die on the streets?

Charming. It isn't enough to twist Williams' arguments beyond recognition; now you also claim he wants poor people to starve. Have you ever noticed that your smug posture of moral superiority is based primarily on lying to yourself about what other people believe?

As for bringing Christianity into it, get off you moral high horse.

Clearly you're oblivious to the irony here. Williams (who, incidentally is black) isn't the one whose self-rightousness drips off the screen with every word. George Will wrote an excellent column some years ago about "virtucrats" -- people whose primary basis of political understanding is self-congratulation. Sound familiar?

Don't try to use the bible to vindicate your own privillaged position!

How arrogant you are. Knowing nothing of the writer's background or faith, you feel free to sneer at what you imagine he must be like.

Or are you just some trendy new revisionist Christian? If Jesus walked into this world and saw the disparity between the first and the third worlds I know who he'd be looking to save.

No limit on that arrogance, is there? Go read what Jesus said to the Centurion -- a well-paid military man from an occupying army.

I doubt you'll stick around here long enough to learn anything, but before you go, ask yourself this:

If I believe in tolerance and diversity, why am I so contemptuous of views that differ from my own? And if I think it's wrong to impose moral views on others, why am I doing exactly the same thing?

9 posted on 09/24/2001 11:51:27 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times
Like most leftists, you confuse equality of opportunity with equality of results.

To do otherwise would be heresy for a Leftist.

A fundamental doctrine of the Left is that "everyone is the same" as far as inborn abilities, and therefore any inequality of result comes from the evil machinations of the powers-that-be.

To a Leftist, any inequality-of-result of any ethnic group MUST be because of inimical factors external to that group; it CANNOT be due to cultural inadequacies (that would be heresy), or genetic differences (that would be blasphemy and the suggestion will get you burned at the stake)

23 posted on 09/26/2001 12:40:04 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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