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Peace movement blames America
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | Marc Berley

Posted on 09/25/2001 8:04:00 PM PDT by ppaul

Just as America must fight a "new kind of war," so it must deal with a new kind of peace movement, one that blames American foreign policy for the recent terrorist attack. Blame the hateful mass murderers seeking martyrdom in their radical holy war against America? Not the new peace movement -- it's a part of a global war against America.

Those who opposed U.S. military action in the past questioned the right of America to protect its interests in other countries. That questioning centered on two issues: the definition of American interests and our right to impose our interests on others. These have always been reasonable questions, whatever one's view in particular cases.

The new peace movement has nothing to do with reasonable questions. "Where is the acknowledgment that this was not a 'cowardly' attack on 'civilization' or 'liberty' or 'humanity' or 'the free world' but an attack on the world's self-proclaimed superpower, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions?" So asks Susan Sontag in The New Yorker.

Never before have so many Americans been killed on American soil. But the new self-proclaimed peaceniks are anti-American cultural warriors willing to sink to unimaginable moral equivalencies.

Whereas the old peace movement questioned America's right to kill people in other countries when no attack on American soil had occurred, the new peace movement defends the brutal killing of thousands of Americans on the grounds that America got what it had coming.

The new peace movement doubtless recalls the old. The latter began with communist sympathizers who excused the Soviet Union its innumerable crimes against humanity, seeing capitalism as the world's great evil. Having adjusted to the end of the Cold War, the new peace movement hates America for being the world's sole remaining superpower. And it wants that power eviscerated.

Unmoved to anger against the perpetrators of the atrocious violence of September 11th, the new peaceniks merely heat up their longstanding anger against America.

Deplorably, they turn the death of thousands of innocent lives into an opportunity to point a cold ideological finger at America.

In its extremism, the new peace movement has something in common with Jerry Falwell: the refusal to blame those responsible for the September 11th atrocity, choosing instead to blame America.

Falwell blames America for harboring heretics. The peaceniks blame America for harboring Americans. Put the two together and you get the holy war of Osama bin Laden, the jihad declared against the U.S. by the Taliban.

So far the percentage of Americans who blame America is small. But those who do blame America congregate in places that shape the future of American culture: our nation's college and university campuses.

Anyone who thought that the loss of more than 6,000 lives on American soil might have led to unanimous patriotic compassion even at America's campuses was too hopeful. The Sontag sentiment is highly audible on campus.

The day after the September 11th attack, one of my Columbia students voiced this representative reaction: "I hope it will cause America to examine its foreign policy decisions."

Like the old one, the new peace movement is rooted in our universities. Thus, it is ruled by political correctness, which, after expunging America's virtues and exaggerating its crimes, credits America's most vicious enemies with political and moral validity.

As part of its anti-American campaign, political correctness teaches young Americans to identify their country as a global oppressor and to regard the rest of the world as blameless victims.

It not only urges identification with such victims but also encourages students to see themselves as victims too.

Thus they can simultaneously identify with the victims of the September 11th attack and blame the oppressive U.S.

Off campus, Americans are united, and their present unity is a beauty to behold. A New York Times/CBS poll shows 85 percent supporting military action against whoever is responsible for the recent attacks.

But once America starts fighting, opposition will grow. The same poll shows there is already less support for a protracted war than for a short one. And this "new kind of war" is likely to be a very long one.

If we are to win this long war against terrorism, the next generation will have to be another great generation. Lines at recruitment offices for America's armed forces suggest it just might be exactly that.

But courageous, patriotic young Americans will find their peers using the cloak of a new "peace" movement to make a war against them.

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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
the differences between the radical left college campuses and the rest of the country will be more obvious than ever to average Americans who haven't been paying attention to exactly WHAT IT IS their tax dollars are funding in the name of "Higher Education".

Worth repeating. How much longer will taxpayers allow their money to be spent on the indoctrination of young people in ideologies fundamentally opposed to American principles?

101 posted on 09/25/2001 11:24:09 PM PDT by Rebellans
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To: maranatha
ENVISION

I can envision a world at peace.

I can envision a world that doesn't even have the word "war" in its vocabulary.

I can envision a world without violence.

I can envision a world where all men live as brothers, working hand in hand for the common good.

I can envision a world that doesn't even contain ONE SINGLE WEAPON!

And I can envision someday, far in the future, the human race building great spaceships to fly across the universe and visit other galaxies and one day discovering this world.

And I can envision us attacking and conquering them! I mean, it would be so EASY, because, you know, like, they wouldn't be EXPECTING anything like this at all! Oh, man. That would be so sweet!

102 posted on 09/25/2001 11:28:28 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: ppaul
The intelligensia have a lust for power and see the attack on America (and all future attacks) as a means for achieving this. Our children are not safe and these intelligensia call down more attacks! I left the left 20 years ago when I heard one of these intellectuals on Pacifica Radio calling on Russia or the People's Republic to nuke America the evil.
103 posted on 09/25/2001 11:41:14 PM PDT by Diogenez
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To: micronaut
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind

An eyes for free for the taking makes the whole world Dachau

104 posted on 09/26/2001 12:04:12 AM PDT by tophat9000
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To: ppaul
Hear!Hear!Most notably Europe-twice we've pulled their chestnuts out of the fire and they hold contempt for us. They have not repaid debts that if paid would take care of the national debt.

Vaudine

105 posted on 09/26/2001 12:19:34 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: John Deere
My anger lies with those warmongers on all sides who use innocent blood to keep score.

Hear hear!

107 posted on 09/26/2001 1:24:19 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: ppaul
nobody here is advocating acts of violence against innocent people.

I guess the "nuke'em" threads have kinda disappeared. same with the "this is a war against all of islam" folks.

108 posted on 09/26/2001 1:26:50 AM PDT by gfactor
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To: micronaut
If they attacked us on our shores with troops I would be the first to take up arms!

They did attack our shores with troops, what is it you don't get about that?

If they were dressed in Hugo Boss uniforms, would you feel better?

109 posted on 09/26/2001 2:08:59 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

"...But the new self-proclaimed peaceniks are anti-American cultural warriors willing to sink to unimaginable moral equivalencies.

Whereas the old peace movement questioned America's right to kill people in other countries when no attack on American soil had occurred, the new peace movement defends the brutal killing of thousands of Americans on the grounds that America got what it had coming..."

110 posted on 09/26/2001 4:31:51 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: ppaul
bump!
111 posted on 09/26/2001 4:58:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ppaul
You (and several others) have said it better than I could, but I'll throw my two cents in. Those who claim our foriegn policy is to blame for this, well, they've got a point. Clinton's policies have made us an easy target for the world's madmen, but that's irrelevant now. It's a done deal; we can't change the past.

We've been brutally attacked, on our own soil, by cowards that made a point of killing as many innocent people as possible. It seems that they had even greater carnage in mind. They've committed an act of war against us, a war they declared openly years ago, a war we've only begun to acknowlege.

There is no act of appeasement we can commit that will forestall further outrages against our citizens. It's not what we've done in the past that caused these psychos to hate us and want to kill us all, it's what we are: FREE. They can't and won't tolerate that. If we withdrew support for the Israelis, gave them all the money they could stand and kissed their rear ends on the world stage, they'd still hate us and kill us every chance they got. Because we're the greatest country on the planet, because we can tolerate differing opinions, allow a variety of religions. They believe in the Koran like I believe in the tooth fairy; they like killing people, and it's just that simple. Their perverted version of Islam is just an excuse for killing anyone who isn't just like them, and they're not going away just because we hold hands and sing peace songs. They must be killed or they'll kill us.

Do I want more innocent blood? No. But these cowards (and no words fits them better) will do the same thing the NVA and VC did, which is hide behind the skirts of their women and children to make us out to be "war criminals" if we strike back. There will be more innocent lives lost. There is simply no way to avoid that completely. The only question is: Ours, or theirs? To me, that's no contest at all. The life of any American is worth more to me than the lives of a hundred terrorists and their wives, kids, etc. If that makes me a heartless "war criminal", so be it. At least I'll be able to look myself in the face every morning. Those who scream that it's all our fault and that we mustn't do anything to make the terrorist even madder can look in the mirror, but they won't see anything.

112 posted on 09/26/2001 5:16:39 AM PDT by glocker
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To: ppaul

Nobody Ever Said the Loony Left Was Smart

Pretty clear that the CAL Berkeley crowd and various other University "thinkers" bent on attempting to ignore realitiy for the sake of inane theories- the heart of the derivation of the loony left in this nation- has an keen aptitude for delusion to the degree that the military leader of Afghanistan has announced that the Afghans are going to win a "holy war' with 300,000 of their own Afghani protesters.

The anti-war proffers in our country- who really can be more accurately described as people that are generally unwilling to lay down their life to protect innocent citizens and could care less that 6700 plus people were killed by violent means on 9-11-01, should be the first to volunteer for the Afghans on suicide missions- afterall, if your philosophy is that it doesn't matter that you are being attacked by violent means and you believe that you shouldn't take real measures to stop innocent people from further and certain pain and violence, then you might as well join the terror lunatics in their jihad- because - you have already made the decision, if you carry the loony left's anti-war baloney to its logical conclusion, that you would allow violence to reign for the sake of some inane principle of non-violence.

The loony left ultimately believes that you and I should allow a violent terrorist network to kill people and we should not protect ourselves using force- because the anti-war people are afterall- against use of force, which obviosly leads to an end- the jihad wins by violence. I never said the loony left wasn't short-sighted either.

Pretty stupid professers really. More precisely though- the anti-war basketcases' delusional principle is, in my view, wholly and completely selfish- these nuts literally believe that NOTHING, including the killing of you and me by lunatic terrorists, is worth 'fighting against'.

The anti-war deluded believe that their 'principle' in fact requires that you and I sacrifice our lives for the sake of their farcical philosophy- and that- dear friends is no different than what the crazies in Afghanistan ask their people to do- commit suicide.

So, I have a proposition for 'Obi-dull-brain', leader of the purported Afghan "military forces" (otherwise know as protesters) and the loony left. Have Obi strap a bomb to his loins and run into a crowd of war-protesters. The two philosphies will meet in perfect harmony for the sake of their delusional principles and the rest of us can observe these absolute mental cases reduce their numbers for the sake of an erroneous principle that does no more than 1). cause innocent people to be killed, and 2). cause more innocent people to be killed.

The anti-war philosophy is nothing more than a suicide mission based on incorrect presumptions of the way the world really operates by ignoring the reality that there exist people in the world who perpetrate proactive violence upon innocent victims. So, if you ignore that reality, it provides a selfish cave of excuses for those who feel their life is more important than taking community efforts to save the village, so to speak, from further death and pain.

The anti-war protester does nothing more than tell you that in the event of an attack upon the village, they'd be the first to run- out of pure selfishness, and as they ran, turn back to you and say, "now don't hit back, it's not right, but spare my right to tell you that and I'll be back when you're done saving my ass- hope you make it out alive. I'm outta here"

Pure unadulterated selfishness.

113 posted on 09/26/2001 5:46:19 AM PDT by GotDangGenius
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To: Professional
The only hard part part about differentiating these "newspapers" is figuring out which one is Der Angriff, and which one is Der Voelkischer Beobachter.

Nazis, plain and simple.

prambo

114 posted on 09/26/2001 6:09:12 AM PDT by prambo
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To: Dan W
These innocents have never heard of Bin Laden, or Bush, or WTC

They've certainly heard of Bin Ladin. Talk to an immigrant from the area.

Additionally, it's not in a vacuum. The "government" is protecting him, and is no longer innocent.

115 posted on 09/26/2001 6:18:28 AM PDT by lepton
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To: prambo
These intellectual Manson era hippie traitors will take a while to drag out and tar and feather them but it happened in the 2nd ww and it will happen in this war.
116 posted on 09/26/2001 7:00:28 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: ppaul
These pacifists should be crushed by patriots in the streets!
117 posted on 09/26/2001 7:03:22 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: John Deere
Shut the F up you immoral peacnik! For this situation, Warmongers we are, for the only way is WAR. Go back and hide under your bed.
118 posted on 09/26/2001 7:06:17 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: micronaut
You are either with America or with the Terrorists. It seems you have made your choice. You are either ignorant, a coward, or a traitor? Which is it Comrade?
119 posted on 09/26/2001 7:09:10 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: micronaut
If you choose to respond to this incomprehensible brutality by perpetuating violence against other innocent human beings

Nope -- we intend to engage in violence against guilty human beings. The blood is on their hands, and theirs alone. If any innocents get caught in the crossfire, that too is entirely their fault: it was their choice to use the general population as human shields instead of surrendering or fighting honorably.

120 posted on 09/26/2001 7:14:09 AM PDT by steve-b
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