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To: Ice-D
"It most certainly is observable - try "The Beak of the Finch: A Story of Evolution in Our Time" By Jonathon Weiner, a Pulitzer Prize winning observation of evolution."

Again, finch's beaks may change through breeding, as my Golden Retreiver is a product of selective breeding. Can a Finch's beak turn into a pair of lips? If so, would it survive? I can also point out the exmples of the woodpecker and the Cleaner-Fish and demonstrate that it is an impossibility for these creature to have evolved naturally. Each of these two examples show intellegent design.

But can you demonstrate a finch turning into a lizzard, or a dog? That's the type of transition that is required for evolution to be believable...that a species can turn into another species.

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110 posted on 09/27/2001 11:50:00 AM PDT by woollyone
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To: woollyone
Can a Finch's beak turn into a pair of lips?

If the environment called for it.

If so, would it survive?

If the adaptation was a result of a change in environment, then the change would be necessary for survival.

I can also point out the exmples of the woodpecker and the Cleaner-Fish and demonstrate that it is an impossibility for these creature to have evolved naturally. Each of these two examples show intellegent design

I don't think they do. Mutualism supports evolution. Please expand.

But can you demonstrate a finch turning into a lizzard, or a dog?

Sure, have you got a couple hundred finches, a lot of land and a few hundred thousand years?

124 posted on 09/27/2001 12:16:05 PM PDT by Ice-D
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To: woollyone
But can you demonstrate a finch turning into a lizzard, or a dog? That's the type of transition that is required for evolution to be believable...that a species can turn into another species.

Nope, I don't think that will ever be possible. The circumstances the allowed for the path for proto-critter to become proto-finch and proto-lizard, and proto-dog will likely never be the same. Sure, it is possible for speciation to occur, but it will take millions of years for the finch or the dog to evolve. Who knows what the future finch will look like?

136 posted on 09/27/2001 12:45:32 PM PDT by ThinkPlease
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