Skip to comments.INTERVIEW WITH ALI ABUNIMAH GOOD REASON TO FEEL "PARANOID"
Posted on 09/27/2001 7:07:05 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
INTERVIEW WITH ALI ABUNIMAH
GOOD REASON TO FEEL "PARANOID"
By: Chuck Morse
|I interviewed Ali Abunimah, Vice President of the Arab-American Action Network, on my radio broadcast (9/26) in order to solicit an Arab-American response to the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Abunimah, using a lofty tone so familiar to me in past interviews with leftist intellectuals, presented a classic left-wing anti-American perspective on the event. I hope for the sake of our country that his views don’t reflect the majority of Arab-Americans and I have good reason to believe that they do not. Unlike Abunimah, a self-appointed Arab-American leader, I believe that most Arab-Americans and Muslims here, including many whom I’ve met over the years, are good patriotic Americans.
I asked my guest why he felt the terrorists, all identified as Muslim, harbored such a hatred for America and Americans that they would execute this mass murder of 7,000 people. His response, after mouthing a rather obligatory statement of regret over the attack, was that the terrorists sought revenge against America by blowing up the World Trade Center, a symbol of capitalism, and the Pentagon, a symbol of the military, because of Arab anger over American support for Israel, American military support to despotic Arab regimes, and the American embargo against Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. This was the same type of Marxist analysis, along with a mix of fanatic Islamic notions, used by Osama bin Laden in his public utterances to justify terror against America.
The unquenchable hate and utter contempt for our culture that the terrorists and their circle of fellow travelers and camp followers have toward America has been on display in Israel for many decades. As far as American military support to despotic Arab regimes is concerned, is there, or has there ever been any other type of regime in the Islamic world? Abunimah worked into his diatribe the idea of establishing a "democratic" Palestine, but where is there, or where has there ever been a "democratic" state anywhere in the Middle East?
What he means by a "democratic" Palestine, based on the Arab record of past and present, is a state that would be, essentially "Judenrein" with a couple of token Jews allowed to live as "dhimmis." America, for moral and practical reasons, supports Arab states that are relatively less despotic than their radical neighbors who threaten them. We have been invited to help these states resist military threats and internal conspiracies by fanatics. We are on the right side in the Arab world, the side of moderation, and we should be proud of our policies.
Regarding Iraq, Abunimah alleges that as a result of our support for the UN embargo, we are responsible for the death of a half a million children. This vicious and preposterous libel has become a propaganda article of faith for the America hating left. Never mind that Iraq is developing biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction and has stopped all UN inspections. Never mind that Saddam Hussein lives in thirteen lavish palaces and devotes every spare nickel of the national revenue to building offensive weapons while his own people live in squalor. Never mind that the UN Security Council, not just the US supports the embargo.
I broached the delicate question of where the terrorists, who have stated that they believe that by killing non-Muslims they are acting for God and fulfilling Jihad against the "infidel," derive their faith. I mentioned the Islamic concept that the world is divided into the "Dar es Salaam" or the House of Peace, which is Islamic, and the "Dar el-Harb" or the House of War, which is non-Islamic. The extremists believe that they have a religious obligation to establish a "Dar es Salaam," hence, they view attacks against non-Muslims to be moral. Clearly the vast majority of Muslims don’t choose to interpret their scriptures in this manner, but we must not flinch in our attempt to understand the beliefs of those who are killing us.
His response was typical left-wing moral equivalence. He stated that Hitler, after all, was a Catholic, so, do we blame Catholicism for the Holocaust? While this was a diversionary attempt to change the subject, suffice it to say that Hitler was not deriving his terrorism from Catholicism, but from a mixture of a religion that goes by the euphemism "New Age" mixed with Marxist principles. In fact, an examination of Nazi rhetoric sounds a lot like the strange mix of Islam and Marxism emanating from the mouth of bin Laden and is syncopates today. I pointed out, in response to further comments, that I would have opposed British Colonialism, Communism and Nazism if I had been around at the time to comment on those world-conquering movements, but that the world conquering movement of today is extremist Islam. He has no comment.
Fireworks erupted from my guest when I made the point that Islamic extremists are committing terror in every nation where either Muslims make up a significant minority, where the nation borders an Islamic nation, or in a Muslim nation with a secular government. He went ballistic as I listed off these nations, which are dealing with Islamic terrorist aggression. These include Muslim Kossovar incursions into Serbia and Macedonia with threats to Greece, Muslim Chechens and Muslim minorities terrorizing the southern frontier of Russia, Muslims terrorizing the Chinese providence of Sinkiang, Muslims terririzing the Philippine Island of Mindanao, Muslim extremists attacking non Muslims in secular Indonesia and Timor and Hindu India, the radical Muslim government of Sudan butchering and enslaving Christians and animists in their southern region, and Muslims committing atrocities in Nigeria and other African countries.
He ended the interview on an ugly note. I’ve noticed that leftists I’ve interviewed over the years often use this tactic, saving bombshell for the last minute of the broadcast. He stated that my concerns over international Islamic terrorism were "paranoid." With 7,000 dead Americans and 15,000 American children who will grow up without parents as a result of the actions of Islamic terrorists, I would contend that we Americans have pretty good reason to feel "paranoid."
We should INDEED be wary of these "people" - until the "peaceful" Islamics show some evidence of stripping the violent Islamics of their religious "cover" and call them murdering fanatics that besmirch the Islamic religion.
Until that time --- I am for deporting all non-citizen Islamics in the U.S. for ANY reason. There is NO way to tell the good guys from the bad --- so expell them all until calmer times.
So what else can one expect from any neo-fascist as these fundamentalist Muslims are? Simply put, these self-styled Islamic do-gooders are fifteen or nineteenth away from any position of real responsibility within any civilized society, so they take it upon themselves to rape, pillage, and burn anything and everyone that will give them a headline.
I would say that if you took the average so-called Muslim fundamentalist and placed them in a ring with the average-Joe American with just their fists, these sissy-men would fold up like a wet-sponge with the first punch.
Unlike a real man, who does not have to talk about what makes themselves tick, you have every creature unfit to breath air crawl out from under the neadest rock to give HIS or her opinion of what is wrong with America.
When did anyone ever hear about someone wanting to defect to an Arab country and give up their United States citizenship? Even Casius Clay (I call them as they were born), still wanted to keep the cash that he could earn as a boxer fighting and living in America.
It takes a real set of nerf-balls to threaten a woman or child. I would also like to see the first big pile of crap light up an American flag in front of my face and see how fast we can have a real getting-to-know Jesus meeting.
Just ask anyone who served in country what the VC thought of "Operation Phoenix?" When the mess hits the fan over there, the Talibad-men are going to know what it was like to be Frank Morgan in the movie HIGH NOON.
What these people do not know about Reaganomics is that the stuff that they pulled at the WTC flows both ways.
I just thought that I would let some of you out there know that there are at least one or two of us that do not get paranoid, we just wait for a little pay-back.
Dissimulation - Taquija
Islam's attitude towards lying and honoring agreements with non-Muslims. This conclusion is taken from "The 4th Conference of Islamic Research" at Al Azar University in Cairo, 1970. The teachings at Al Azr University is normative for all Sunni Muslims. For Shiites it is Qum in Iran.
The expression taquija means to dissimulate and is used when serving the propagation of Islam or benefitting a Muslim compared to 'infidels'. Lying to 'infidels' is officially acknowledged and is religiously motivated.
Lying is okay
In essence taqija means that a Muslim is allowed to hide his or her intentions in a difficult situation. For instance in regard to Koran interpretations, the more mellow verses are emphasized towards people with no thorough knowledge of the matter, and threatening, harsh verses are hidden.
Mohammed did it
Taqija was practised by the Prophet, Mohammed, himself; in negotiations where he fooled his opponents. For that very reason, Muslims often enter into agreements intending to break them when they have assumed control of the situation.
Active Muslims in the West deny the use of taqija. This emphatic denial of using taqija towards us and the authorities is part of the method used in taqija. Often it leads to confusion on behalf of us and negotiating authorities e.g. the Ministry of the Interior.
Fraud is legitimate
Fraud and lies are religiously permitted means in Islam. A negotiated settlement or an agreement with a Muslim is never final.
6 Posted on 09/27/2001 18:47:43 PDT by viadexter
I also like your idea of "brotherly" love..
This is the very point I've been making for the last two weeks, and it's very hard to get people to listen. Suddenly everyone is of the mind that Islam is a peace loving religion and these terrorists are an aberration. I'm afraid the opposite is true.
I also work with a man who is African and being so, he grew up among many many muslims and the one thing he said to me is NEVER trust them. They claim to be peaceful and to the eye they appear to be but in fact they are not. The moment you insult their Koran or speak down their religion you had better never turn your back on them. I consider him to be a very wise man for his age and I deeply value his opinions and insight.
We must all remember that the root of this entire problem is based on the fact that ALL Arab peoples are descended from Ishmael, the first born of Abraham. God never intended for Abraham to bless Abraham through Ishmael, but God could not abandon His promises to Abraham either.
As Isaac was the chosen seed, Ishmael always coveted what he presumed was God's favor, as did Esau against God's chosen Jacob. When America chose to side with Israel, they were condemned to face the forces of the god of this world. To expect any Muslims to accept that they are NOT God's chosen people flies in the face of any reason on their part.
God has always raised up His standard when the enemy comes in like a flood. There will also be God Himself who will visit His retibution on all evil. Do not seek after answers in the ways of men as you will always find disillusionment. But, your faith in your Source and Creator will strengthen your souls against that coming day of Great Sorrows.
Always pray for the lost souls of this earth, irrespective of national origin or ethnicity. Resist all evil, but be willing to lay down your life in the protection of an innocent victim.
The character played by Gary Cooper in the movie HIGH NOON is very much what the American idea and purpose has always been. Americans have always been known as straight forward and trusting, but there are those out there that just need a killing. As Mamie in GONE WITH THE WIND would say about such people: "Nope, it just aint fittin." What more can be said?