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Governor of All: God was sovereign over September 11 and so we have hope.
World Magazine ^ | October 6, 2001 edition | John Piper

Posted on 09/27/2001 8:14:39 PM PDT by sola gracia

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We all are sinners. We deserve to perish. Every breath is an undeserved gift. We have one great hope: Jesus Christ died to obtain pardon and righteousness for us (Ephesians 1:7; 2 Corinthians 5:21), and God will employ His all-conquering, sovereign grace to preserve us for our inheritance (Jeremiah 32:40). We surrender this hope if we sacrifice this sovereignty.

Amen!! What more can you say?

1 posted on 09/27/2001 8:14:39 PM PDT by sola gracia
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To: sola gracia
It's all my fault?
2 posted on 09/27/2001 8:16:27 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Uriel1975, Jerry_M, the_doc, Sovereign_Citizen_W, spudgin, JenB, oneofhis, Diamond
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3 posted on 09/27/2001 8:16:31 PM PDT by sola gracia
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4 posted on 09/27/2001 8:17:18 PM PDT by sola gracia
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5 posted on 09/27/2001 8:17:53 PM PDT by sola gracia
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Only to the extent that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
6 posted on 09/27/2001 8:18:00 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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7 posted on 09/27/2001 8:18:28 PM PDT by sola gracia
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To: sola gracia
God doesn't do everything, but He can do anything.
8 posted on 09/27/2001 8:19:40 PM PDT by quimby
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9 posted on 09/27/2001 8:20:25 PM PDT by sola gracia
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     Only to the extent that all have sinned
and fall short of the glory of God.

Well, we have.  So it's all our fault?

10 posted on 09/27/2001 8:20:38 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: sola gracia
We all are sinners. We deserve to perish.
Amen!! What more can you say?

I can say that this type of logic is the reason I am not a Christian.

12 posted on 09/27/2001 8:24:42 PM PDT by eddie willers
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How God governs all events in the universe without sinning, and without removing responsibility from man, and with compassionate outcomes is mysterious!

The real mystery is how anyone who believes this can also believe God is good. I know too many people who are grieving for those they loved and lost to believe this could possibly be described as a compassionate act except by the most sadistic psychopaths. I wish one of them could explain to one young lady I know who's aunt and only relative was killed in one of the towers how she was the recipient of God's compassionate blessing, or explain to another young women I know, who's grandmother unwillingly made the trip that day and was killed in one of the planes that crashed into the WTO, how much God has blessed her, or to that poor widow whose husband was died in one of the towers, left with her 3 year old daughter and a child she is about to give birth to, how they were blessed by this God who "allows" these things to happen even though it is in His power to prevent them.

It is this very superstitious "faith" that enables people to martyr themselves and murder thousands of others for their good and merciful God, whatever name they give Him.

Hank

13 posted on 09/27/2001 8:42:58 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: sola gracia
It is very hard for people to grasp the concept of Sovereign Justice Sola

They dont think it would be "fair" of God to "allow" 6,000 to die,so the devil did it behind God's back

Over and over I see people struggling with this..

When an article like this is posted or you or I say that God knew this was going to happen and He will use it for His purposes people get very nervous..It doesn't fit the concept of God that most Americans are comfortable with.

God is a mystery....we only know Him through His word...and scripture is replete with God controlling events and HIStory....

I can not pretend to understand exactly how this all works,I just know we have nothing to fear he is in control!

Thank you for the flag!

14 posted on 09/27/2001 8:45:15 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Hank Kerchief
Some minister in a TV news interview said that God brings good things from every bad thing. Ergo, something very wonderful would result from the terrorist attacks. Then he smiled and, undoubtedly, felt all warm inside.
15 posted on 09/27/2001 8:46:59 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Hank Kerchief
The real mystery is how anyone who believes this can also believe God is good. I know too many people who are grieving for those they loved and lost to believe this could possibly be described as a compassionate act

Hank people die every day..there is no mystery to there is a time to be born and a time to die .We all know that. this is different only because the numbers are so large and we saw it on TV

The loss being suffered by these families is real,but it is no more a loss than if they had died in an auto accident...

We need to have compassion for the families and help them through their loss...but we need to do that for everyone that has a loss..

Someone once told me life is like a tapestry....we only see the backside of it..all the knots and crossed thread...we will not see the pattern of that tapestry untill we are in heaven

16 posted on 09/27/2001 8:53:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Then we are wrong in wanting revenge?
17 posted on 09/27/2001 8:56:26 PM PDT by gcruse
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Then we are wrong in wanting revenge?

I hope not because I sure do,and as soon as possible..

18 posted on 09/27/2001 8:59:08 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: sola gracia
John Piper BUMP.

I am almost done with his The Pleasures of God. It is even better than Desiring God!

19 posted on 09/27/2001 9:04:43 PM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: sola gracia
About an hour after the attacks, I went to Mass and the reading was taken from Paul to the Corinthians (if I recall correctly) which read: "God has dominion over all principalities and powers."

Gives perspective to those who question who is in control of this situation, or who is going to win.

20 posted on 09/27/2001 9:08:12 PM PDT by Jomers
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