Posted on 09/27/2001 8:14:39 PM PDT by sola gracia
Even the Demons were subject to Jesus
He is God greggy
Another Amen!
Still, God did not cause this, but sin did. This was no calamity brought about through forces of nature or mechanical failure or "accident" but rather these attacks were sinful actions by sinners.
God did not cause sin. God allows sin to occur. God can and does use all things for His own good purposes. God is sovereign. Yes, how God governs all events in the universe without sinning, and without removing responsibility from man, and with compassionate outcomes is mysterious!
The most important thing is how we should respond. It is good to see this as a wake up call for us as individuals and as a nation. As a nation we should repent of killing the unborn, the homosexual culture, violence in the streets, indecent television, immoral entertainment, etc. But we should not, as individuals, stick our fingers in anyone elses face, be they abortionists, homosexuals, etc., and say "this is your fault!" Unless each one of us repents of our own sins, each one of us will also perish.
If anyone wants to find sin, start by looking in the mirror. Let us all, each one of us, use this terrible attack that God chose not to prevent as a call to repent and turn to Him. Then, He will bless us as individuals and as a nation.
At this time of great sorrow, we should look in the mirror and reflect on the sin that rests in our flesh and the flesh of all men that precipitates such evil and hatred.
As a Calvinist, I know that God is in complete control of everything, yet is not the author of sin. He uses sinful men for his divine purposes. He can never be frustrated in His purpose. And that the same God who brought the victims into this world, oversaw every aspect of there passing to the next. That does not mean that God directly caused their death. It does mean that God was not caught asleep at the wheel. May He give us grace to trust in Him and lean not on our own understanding.
I have only recently heard of John Piper. I listened to Pilgrim Radio from Carson City Nevada while on vacation. Their format includes reading books. I had the pleasure of hearing a portion of one of Piper's books - the life of John Bunyan.
The unregenerate man "leaves it" until God, purely of His own free will, by grace, causes man to believe.
By the way it is highly unlikely that man senses (eye, ear, nose, touch, etc) any external force to believe. Man merely senses a drastic soul-saving change in his "wants". But when all is said and done the saved-soul can look back in time and realize that it was God, not free will after all, that "did it".
The Holy Scriptures are replete with this doctrine.
There is much I could say, but I will leave it at this- you haven't even begun to see the revival, and it will not end until Jesus takes the church off the earth. Until then, the church will grow from one degree of glory to another. We are talking the Shekina Glory of God- the manifest presence of the Glory of God.Well, I don't use words like Shekina. I'm guessing that this reference is more Hebrew Roots and/or charismatic talk. Leaving that aside, I will simply say that the Bible teaches there will come a great falling away from the true and simple faith in Christ, that false teachers will abound, that Christians will be killed by their so-called brethren, that men will not follow sound doctrine but will instead pursue religious novelty which they will substitue for a simple and true faith in Christ and that in the end they will pursue their false religion to the ecumenical religion of the Antichrist.
I have always wondered about that GW..I have heard and read so much on the idea of "end time" revival.
It completely conflicts with the "great falling away"
It will be hard times...greggy believes that he/she will suffer no harm..scripture doesnt reinforce that ..when things get hard I do believe there will be a "falling away"......
It completely conflicts with the "great falling away"
It doesn't look like a great revival under the present circumstances (up to the time of the Rapture). However, I think the great revival comes in when one is in the Tribulation period. That's when all the Gospel will be preached to the world. And that's when there will be a great revival, right in the midst of all God's judgements and Satan's attempt to control the world -- along with those 144,000 Jewish evangelists, going all over the world (to say nothing of angels flying in the heavens proclaiming God's word and telling the world not to take the "mark").
There are many in this world who have never heard the Gospel -- who will hear it at this time. There's where you'll see the great revival. The Christians will see it after having been removed from this world and being with Christ.
Christ says that the gospel will be preached to the whole world and then the end will come. The "end of what?" Well, the end of the age -- that's what. When does that happen? Well, not until Christ returns to the earth to set up His Kingdom (not at the time He returns for the church). It's not the "end of the age", yet, at that time.
Amen!! What more can you say?
1 Posted on 09/27/2001 20:14:39 PDT by sola gracia
I would offer : Romans 8:28-36 NIV
Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died--more than that, who was raised to life--is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."
XeniaSt
Secondly, Job was not referring to Satan in Job 13:15a. If you read the passage, you will see that he is referring to God Almighty.
Heavens to betsy, you really ought to read Scripture before you comment on it.
As far as Matthew 21 is concerned, you were the one who brought that passage up in your #65. I was only stating that you have to read a considerable amount into Jesus' words to conclude that He was talking about the restoration of Israel, whether 1948 or 1967. You still don't know when He will return.
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