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To: kattracks
Gen. Alfred M. Gray, who served as Commandant of the Marine Corps in the early 1980s,

Gray was Commandant from July 1987 through June of 1991.

The Marines who rescued Scott O'Grady in June of 1995 were run of the mill grunts and wingers doing what they've all been trained to do and practice on a regular basis. America gets the most bang for it's defense dollar with the Corps. A hearty Semper Fi to all my fellow Devil Dogs past and present around the globe.


3 posted on 09/30/2001 2:41:40 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Let me remind the people that General Smedley Butler USMC won TWO Medals of Honor.

Perhaps the Marine Medal of Honor recipient I admire most is General Merritt "Red Mike" Edson, his Medal of Honor won at Edson's Ridge on Guadalcanal. "Red Mike" Edson was on track to be Commandant of the Corps but left active duty to achieve two things - the independence of the Corps and that Second Amendment powerhouse and defender of our liberties, the modern National Rifle Association of America. Before Past President Merritt Edson the National Rifle Association was only an association of shooting clubs.

7 posted on 09/30/2001 2:54:01 PM PDT by Iris7
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
General Gray was my Commandant during my term.

The difference between the Corps under Al 'Fireplug' Gray, and under P.X. Kelley his predecesor, was a very stark contrast.

Immediately following Boot Camp, I was one of the first of six SOI (School of Infantry) platoons that was selected for an experiment at Camp Geiger called 'MCT' (Marine Combat Training). They stretched us to the breaking point, then calibrated the training down a pip and instituted it in regular Basic Training called 'The Crucible'.

In USMC Basic, the 'Crucible' lasts two days. For us, it went on for eight weeks. Sleep deprivation, poor living conditions, scarce food, MOUT training, and a 21-mile road march (no roads that I saw, BTW) came at us with no warning when we thought we were going to hit the rack one evening. Two days later, we humped 21 miles back -- again with no warning. Lots of head games, physical fitness regimens, mixed with some outstanding training in weapons that even the old lifer sergeants hadn't even seen yet.

Toughest time of my life. School of Infantry training was actually a few steps down in pain, by comparison. That was when the fun came in: Amphibious assaults by LCAC (hovercrafts) and Amtracs, doing 'Jacob's Ladder' drills from Gator Navy ships, etc. All the MEU and BLT exercises.

General Gray was a son-of-a-bitch, let me tell you. I only appreciated it after MCT was over. Everyone was taken to the limits, even the instructors. I was only 20 years old then.

I'm sure I'd die if I tried to do it again at my age. :)

27 posted on 09/30/2001 6:00:52 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER,Mudpuppy,Katracks
Semper Fidelis. Yes we (Mr. Teacup and I) know these folk very well, LOL. Mr Teacup was part of the MEF.
34 posted on 09/30/2001 6:59:07 PM PDT by Teacup
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I agree, the Army probably wastes more than the entire Marine Corps budget in a given fiscal year. BTW I'm a 14 year vet of the Active Army and National Guard. The Marines also have a more streamlined procurement system, and they consistently develop better and more practical gear for their soldiers.
36 posted on 09/30/2001 7:03:24 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Awesome and patriotic bump to our brave Marines. From the homefront. We love you guys!
59 posted on 09/30/2001 8:06:10 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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