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To: Steve0113
I, too, was glad to hear that's what they're SAYING. Now let's WATCH WHAT THEY DO .

And one of the FIRST things should be to allow the flight crew to possess the means to defend the aircraft and their passengers.

Let me know when W falls into line with THAT common-sense proposal.

And in anticipation of your response re. SKY MARSHALS, here's a little something to chew on.

Talkback Live recently featured a former Air Force General who was also a commercial airline pilot. Don’t recall his name, but he supported ARMING PILOTS – and here’s why:

4 or 5 terrorists randomly seated on plane. Terrorist closest to front stands, grabs a flight attendant and, holding a large plastic blade he’d sewn into his clothing to her throat, announces he’s hijacking the aircraft. LONE sky marshal, weapon drawn, declares himself, and commands terrorist to release hostage and assume the position. During take down and marshal’s attention focused on first terrorist, terrorists behind marshal swarm and subdue him – and take his weapon! Unless the OTHER passengers come to his aid and take down the bad guys, the terrorists now have the only weapon on the aircraft and are now in command.

IT’S A NO-BRAINER, MR. BUSH: WITHOUT A GUN ON THE FLIGHT DECK, THE PLANE WILL EITHER BECOME A GUIDED MISSLE or BE SHOT DOWN BY THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE – PER YOUR ORDERS.

I AND MY LOVED ONES ARE SURE AS HELL NOT GETTING BACK ON A COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT UNTIL THE GUYS UP FRONT HAVE SOME MEANS TO KEEP US ALL ALIVE.

AND THEY ALREADY HAVE! Title 14 CFR 108.11 already authorizes airline pilots to carry firearms.

Check it out yourself by punching “14CFR 108.11” into any decent search engine.

Meanwhile, the Airline Pilots Association is petitioning Congress to pass a law allowing them to carry firearms in the cockpit. Doesn’t this association have lawyers, and don’t these lawyers ever check the law books? It’s already there! Here’s a piece:

Sec. 108.11 Carriage of weapons. (a) No certificate holder required to conduct screening under a security program may permit any person to have, ...on or about his or her person or property, a deadly or dangerous weapon, either concealed or unconcealed, accessible to him or her while aboard an airplane for which screening is required unless:
(1) The person having the weapon is-- (i) An official or employee of the United States (Why are they so !@#$% special?) or ... (ii) Authorized to have the weapon by the certificate holder and the Administrator and has successfully completed a course of training in the use of firearms acceptable to the Administrator.

A friend who is a Delta 767 Captain phoned to inform me of this. Pull up the whole statute and read it closely. I asked him about the "certificate holder."

"That’s the airline," he barked. "They have the authority to put a gun in anyone’s hands, according to the law already on the books."

He’s right. That "person" referred to is not restricted to pilots. They way I read it, the airline can authorize anyone to carry a weapon anytime, and that means you and me. It is strictly up to them. The bozos could have made the flights a lot safer a long time ago by simply utilizing this statute with prudence.

69 posted on 10/01/2001 12:46:33 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
If we are putting stronger doors on the cockpit that are not supposed to ever be opened in flight... what then is the point of arming the people on the inside of the cockpit? Shouldn't the people charged with taking down a hijacker be in the cabin?
75 posted on 10/01/2001 4:50:43 PM PDT by Ramius
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