What's this stuff about throwing people in jail for "downloading" cropduster info?

Jhoffa_X

[Jolly Rodgers]

You have the right to an attorney....

...but it won't help because we keep everything secret in the terrorism courts. You'll just have to take our word for it that you're guilty.

[Jhoffa_]

Pretty much..

Or the AC Intake on a large building.

This has turned into full blown paranoia.

[glock rocks]

You have the right to an attorney....

maybe johnny cochran...

if you saw the post, yer rights are toast...

if you didn’t read, you must be freed...

naw.

[self_evident]

If you didn't spray, what the hay?

[Pan_Yan]

That would be funny if we hadn't turned off the outside air fans in the lower half of our building last week ... apparently for ever.

[self_evident]

I have to admit, I find it a little humorous that the FAA forbade farmers from using their own cropdusters following the 9/11 attack, then turn right around and lose one of their own.

ROFLMAO. But those identity cards and federalizing airport security will make us all safe, right?

[self_evident]

I don't understand why everyone is so bent about cropdusters. Anybody can accomplish the same thing with a Cessna 152 and a garden sprayer.

Or going to a crowded room... and sneezing.

[self_evident]

I haven't heard or read anything after the initial news article. Very strange.

There was a hurricane (or at least bad weather). Less strange.

[Jhoffa_]

But those identity cards and federalizing airport security will make us all safe, right?

Yeah, another Government Bureaucracy stuffed with card carrying union members will fix everything..

It's actually doubly safe, because we know both the Government and the Unions are uncorruptable.

:(

[DugwayDuke]

If your intent is to spread chemical agents, then the only thing you'll accomplish with your Cessina and your garden sprayer is to get yourself killed. You'll not even complete filling the sprayer before you're dead.

You'll live longer if the intent is to spread biowar agents. But the likelihood is that you will not accomplish any more than the cult that tried that in Japan. Two attempts at bio attack and zero results.

Chem/bio is not for amateurs. Quite frankly, if it worked as well as some claim then it would have been used.

[Focault's Pendulum]

I did a search for dustcroppers and a representative from Merry Maids arrived at my door, dressed in a black suit and darkened glasses.....I was worried for a sec...I thought it was my ex.

[lewislynn]

Welcome to the new big government, tax sucking, civil rights violating, feel good bureacracy of The Federal Bureau of "Homeland Security"...warm and fuzzy name isn't it?

[jws3sticks]

This string need pictures:

With appologies to Slim, here is where we put Gary Candiddoit.

[Jhoffa_]

Sig Heil.

[teletech]

There was a hurricane (or at least bad weather). Less strange.

Has it been reported that this aircraft went down in a storm? I haven't seen such a report.

[self_evident]

Read up here. Had only a vauge memory myself.

[Movemout]

"will not accomplish any more than the cult that tried that in Japan. "

With a nick like yours I assume you've spent some time in Utah where all the good stuff has been bunkered. I seem to remember the Japanese cult used Sarin and not a biological agent. Was there another attack that I missed?

[DugwayDuke]

I'm surprised. No one else has made that connection. FYI, Duke's my dog. I got him while I was living at Dugway. His registered name is "Duke Maxmillion of Dugway". That would be pretentious but he is a Great Dane. I only spent about eighteen months at Dugway so I'm no expert. But I did do a lot of reading while I was there. I've also been through several military classes on this stuff. (BTW, nothing I have or will post anywhere is remotely classified.)

The Japanese cult tried on two occassions to disperse bio and failed miserably. There is an excellent article at world net daily. You can find it at this url: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24785

Chem/bio can be effective, if done properly. But that's a big "if". I've been pleasantly surprised at the number of articles and media reports that have begun to downplay chem/bio as a threat. Most of the earlier reports were almost hysterical in tone. If you listened to those reports, you could only wonder why any one would ever build anything other than chem/bio weapons. Finally, some folks began to ask the question: "if these things are so good, why haven't they been used?" One obvious answer is that it's much more difficult to do than most folks think. I even saw (FoxNews) a reporter back a chem/bio "expert" into a corner, finally getting him to admit that he and many others were grossly exagerating the chem/bio threat. He said that was the only way to get attention. Of course, that only raises the question: "if this stuff is so much of a threat, then why does one have to exagerate in order to get attention."

That said, chem/bio can be deadly, but there are usually better ways to achieve the same results. (I've seen news reports that indicate it would take a ton of chem to attack two square miles. That's pretty efficient but where does one get a ton of Sarin? I'm sure it's a special order even at Walmart.) I wouldn't expect a lot of casualties from the kind of attack these terrorists could manage, but the psychological impact could far outweigh any casusalties caused.

[CDHart]

"I don't know who'se scarier, Osama or Fed Gov."

Fed Gov, without a doubt.

Carolyn

[Movemout]

Thanks for the URL. I'll go read the article shortly. I agree with your assessment that there are more effective ways to kill people in large numbers than the chem/bio route, but when you are dealing with suicidal maniacs wanting to maximize the terror anything could happen. FReegards to you and the Great Dane.