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Why the suicide killers chose September 11
The Guardian ^ | Wednesday October 3, 2001 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 10/03/2001 7:59:54 PM PDT by anapikoros

The search continues for the numinous or hieroglyphic significance of the date September 11. Believers in propaganda by deed, like Gavrilo Princip and Timothy McVeigh, usually choose to invest themselves with portentousness by selecting an anniversary that will freight their murder with meaning. Often, it is a date that only meant something to a very limited or arcane circle until its true value was unveiled to a stunned world. Thus Princip chose the date of Serbia's 14th century defeat in Kosovo and McVeigh chose the anniversary of Janet Reno's bloodbath at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. I've also frequently heard it suggested that the timing of the recent attacks was linked somehow to the signing of the Camp David agreement in September 1978. I thought this sounded a plausible reason for the death-squads circling that date in their diaries - until I discovered that the agreement was in fact signed on September 17. Fanatics don't make mistakes like that.

I now think I can provide a more persuasive explanation, however. It was on September 11 1683 that the conquering armies of Islam were met, held, and thrown back at the gates of Vienna.

Now this, of course, is not a date that has only obscure or sectarian significance. It can rightly, if tritely, be called a hinge-event in human history. The Ottoman empire never recovered from the defeat; from then on it was more likely that Christian or western powers would dominate the Muslim world than the other way around. In our culture, the episode is often forgotten or downplayed, except by Catholic propagandists like Hilaire Belloc and GK Chesterton. But in the Islamic world, and especially among the extremists, it is remembered as a humiliation in itself and a prelude to later ones. (The forces of the Islamic Jihad in Gaza once published a statement saying that they could not be satisfied until all of Spanish Andalusia had been restored to the faithful as well.)

If my speculation is correct, then whoever wanted to destroy the hearts of New York and Washington was animated by something more than a recent grievance over the West Bank or the Iraqi sanctions


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1 posted on 10/03/2001 7:59:54 PM PDT by anapikoros
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To: anapikoros
We're way ahead of you, Chris.
2 posted on 10/03/2001 8:02:00 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: anapikoros
And they will be "met, held, and thrown back" once again.
3 posted on 10/03/2001 8:03:55 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: anapikoros
911. duh
4 posted on 10/03/2001 8:04:52 PM PDT by arielb
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To: anapikoros
Sobieski Bump!
5 posted on 10/03/2001 8:06:06 PM PDT by eniapmot
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To: anapikoros; Stavka2; Voronin; wildandcrazyrussian
>>> Thus Princip chose the date of Serbia's 14th century defeat in Kosovo...<<<

Unless one wishes to consider that the Archduke chose the same date to visit Sarajevo to celebrate the Hapsburg domination of those same people.

Perspective, you see, is a subjective thing.

6 posted on 10/03/2001 8:06:51 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: anapikoros
Well, if their intent is to commemorate their loss to the West, so be it. If their intent is to cause a turning point, won't happen. The West will always dominate the camel-screwing diaperheads.

They inflicted a very small hit, in the big scheme of things. Not enough to do more than piss us off.

7 posted on 10/03/2001 8:09:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: anapikoros
I read somewhere that September 11 was that 40th anniversary of the completion of the Pentagon.
9 posted on 10/03/2001 8:12:25 PM PDT by Orion78
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"Unless one wishes to consider that the Archduke chose the same date to visit Sarajevo to celebrate the Hapsburg domination of those same people."

And unless one considers that the 7-day forecast for September 11 forecast clear conditions all across the Eastern seaboard.

Cloudless skies across the northeast being a prerequisite for the four hijackings and attacks...

Does anybody know when the reservations were dated?

10 posted on 10/03/2001 8:17:10 PM PDT by okie01
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To: anapikoros
"It was on September 11 1683 that the conquering armies of Islam were met, held, and thrown back at the gates of Vienna."

It was the evil Italian Jews! It was SO unfair, they took our land away! Waaaaahh! Give it baaaccckkk, We'll tell! Sob,It was the evil Italian Jews!

/sarcasm off

11 posted on 10/03/2001 8:23:35 PM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: Orion78
I read that they broke ground that day.
12 posted on 10/03/2001 8:24:28 PM PDT by knak
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To: okie01
I find the thought that 911 was not chosen on purpose to be rather chilling.

Oddly, I was also more bothered by the idea that stocks had been purchased and sold before the attack than the actual attack itself.

Not sure why these things "speak" to me.

13 posted on 10/03/2001 8:24:37 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: anapikoros
That night the cresent moon joined some bright planet in the sky, forming the star and cresent - the symbol of Islam.
14 posted on 10/03/2001 8:26:31 PM PDT by jonatron
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To: Orion78
Construction started on 11 September 1941, 60 years prior to the attack. Construction was completed on 15 January 1943.

The Pentagon

15 posted on 10/03/2001 8:28:16 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: anapikoros
Personally, I think the bastards gave themselves a window--and the weather just happened to be perfect on September 11 for VFR flying.
17 posted on 10/03/2001 8:33:50 PM PDT by calmseas
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To: anapikoros
My wife and I are former residents of New York... Long Island... Rockville Centre specifically, we know many families affected, over 30 in our hometown. I recently retired from the the USCG after 22 years. So, as I'm rearanging my "I love me" wall, I realize that the New York license plate from so long ago (the 80's at least!)is :

AUS 911

peace all

18 posted on 10/03/2001 8:35:07 PM PDT by Coastie
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To: okie01; anapikoros; Romulus; arielb;FormerLib;LLAN-DDEUSANT;SerbianFie;jonatron;SMEDLEYBUTLER;Dianna
All informed and plausible comments!

Kudos!

19 posted on 10/03/2001 8:39:24 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: anapikoros
Bump so I can copy this tomorrow and send it to my Pro-Palestinian friend
20 posted on 10/03/2001 8:44:59 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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