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To: Urbane_Guerilla
"Mohammad seems to have been the L. Ron Hubbard of his day."-Urbane Guerilla

A great turn of the phrase. Very true, sadly; and like L. Ron Hubbard, Mohammed capitalized on people who were socially at loose ends. Jews were dispersed and Christians were engaged in conflicts, particularly over the Arian heresy, which was especially important because many of the Visigothic and other barbarian tribes who overran the former Roman Empired subscribed to it and it had political implications.

Islam, however, was a religion of conquest from its very beginnings. One of the things responsible for its modern reputation for "tolerance" is the civilization of early Islamic Spain. However, this was the result of the fact that the original Islamic rulers were from the caliphate of Baghdad, a very sophisticated society. These Muslims themselves were later overrun by the much more savage and fundamentalist Berber Muslims, and any pretence of tolerance disappeared.

But I think that, in modern times, this myth is sustained by a desire to glorify all things non-Western, sometimes as the result of fuzzy-thinking romanticism, and sometimes for ideological reasons.

14 posted on 10/06/2001 11:23:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
Today is the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto, where in the greatest sea battle since that battle of Actium, Don John of Austria led the fleet of the Holy leagueto victory against a Turkish force that aimed to invade Italy. Chesterton's poemconcludes:

Vivat Hispania! Domino Gloria!

Don John of Austria Has set his people free!

Cervantes on his galley sets the sword back in the sheath

(Don John of Austria rides homeward with a wreath.)

And he sees across a weary land a straggling road in Spain,

Up which a lean and foolish knight for ever rides in vain,

And he smiles, but not as Sultans smile, and settles back the blade....

(But Don John of Austria rides home from the Crusade.)

What a price Spain paid for having saved Europe from Islam, and without as much as a thank you. Rather we have the Black Legend formented by England, which sat out this fight.                                              

16 posted on 10/06/2001 1:00:22 PM PDT by RobbyS
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