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To: willyboyishere
They seem to truly want and expect to be exterminated, and they believe that even if all of them are killed in the process of trying to defeat the West and re-establish their brand of Islam as a dominant force on the world stage, then new generations will follow them and successfully complete the struggle.

Well, they're certainly exemplifying tribalism at its most extreme: considering their own group to be true humanity and good, everything not them to be false humanity and wicked. The proof of the wickedness is our failure to accept their judgment about our wickedness, because if we were righteous we'd agree with them that we are wicked. This mentality is something that in the past existed almost everywhere in the world. I think it's the default condition of the human experience and, were it not for the grace of G-d, we'd never have seen anything like the Western tradition of law that, in its best moments, puts all men of all tribes into the same context.
31 posted on 10/09/2001 9:02:30 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
"...the default condition of the human experience"
-----beautiful and apt phrase.
Yes, they seem stuck in a historical warp, and "left out" of even the ancient but modernizing cultures they mostly sprang from. If they don't directly become a major problem for us "militarily",they are in the meanwhile becoming a huge problem for the countries they're already living in, like Pakistan. Whether we will have to deal with them, or their own countries do, it will require the "strong stomach" I mentioned even to watch the chaos unfold.
42 posted on 10/09/2001 10:10:10 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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